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Re: A more modest proposal
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David Kastrup |
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Re: A more modest proposal |
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Fri, 23 Jul 2010 10:47:54 +0200 |
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Miles Bader <address@hidden> writes:
> "Alfred M. Szmidt" <address@hidden> writes:
>> Having the same keybinding behave completely differently depending if
>> you use a windowing system or the console is a bad idea. What about
>> having C-z C-z do suspend-frame, and C-z z ... do undo? Not that I
>> see a need for yet another undo keybinding.
>
> There's already a better binding for suspend-frame: "C-x C-z"
>
> So I'd say, just change the meaning of C-z universally to undo, and let
> people use C-x C-z for suspend.
Arguably if Emacs is started from a tty where C-z is set to susp, the
user expectation might be that C-z suspends Emacs.
Arguably similar expectations would hold for C-s, C-v, C-q, C-u, so I am
not sure that this argument should prevail, even though C-z has a
slightly different quality, being slightly useful as a working panic
exit for the completely new user.
I don't agree with Alfred that minimization on a window system is
suitably similar to warrant the C-z keybinding as well on a window
system.
All in all, I don't think maintaining C-z in its current meaning is
worth the trouble, particularly on window systems.
--
David Kastrup
- Re: A more modest proposal, (continued)
- Re: A more modest proposal, David Kastrup, 2010/07/23
- Re: A more modest proposal (Was: Emacs learning curve), Jan Djärv, 2010/07/23
- Re: A more modest proposal (Was: Emacs learning curve), Daniel Colascione, 2010/07/23
- Re: A more modest proposal, Thien-Thi Nguyen, 2010/07/23
- Re: A more modest proposal (Was: Emacs learning curve), Jan Djärv, 2010/07/23
- Re: A more modest proposal, Miles Bader, 2010/07/23
- Re: A more modest proposal, Jan Djärv, 2010/07/23
- RE: A more modest proposal (Was: Emacs learning curve), Drew Adams, 2010/07/23
- Re: A more modest proposal (Was: Emacs learning curve), Alfred M. Szmidt, 2010/07/23
- Re: A more modest proposal, Miles Bader, 2010/07/23
- Re: A more modest proposal,
David Kastrup <=
- Re: A more modest proposal, Miles Bader, 2010/07/23
- Re: A more modest proposal, Alfred M. Szmidt, 2010/07/23
- Re: A more modest proposal, Stefan Monnier, 2010/07/23
- Re: A more modest proposal, Eli Zaretskii, 2010/07/23
- Re: A more modest proposal, Andreas Schwab, 2010/07/23
- Re: A more modest proposal (Was: Emacs learning curve), Stephen Eilert, 2010/07/23
- Re: A more modest proposal, Chong Yidong, 2010/07/23
- Re: Emacs learning curve, Miles Bader, 2010/07/17
- Omi[cs]iroi! (was: Emacs learning curve), Drew Adams, 2010/07/17
- RE: Omi[cs]iroi! (was: Emacs learning curve), Drew Adams, 2010/07/17