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Re: Deprecate _emacs on Windows
From: |
Juanma Barranquero |
Subject: |
Re: Deprecate _emacs on Windows |
Date: |
Wed, 23 Mar 2011 02:34:34 +0100 |
On Wed, Mar 23, 2011 at 01:58, Drew Adams <address@hidden> wrote:
> (Or will you scour the user's hard drive for a `_emacs' file just so you can
> warn about it not having been used?)
Yes, Drew, that's exactly what I will do, because in my free time I'm
secretly a James Bond cat-petting villain.
> Google "warning". Enjoy.
Sorry, but I'm not convinced. Words mean what people use them to mean.
> ad hominem, ad hominem. Sticks and stones...
My comment wasn't an argument ad hominem; I don't think your arguments
are incorrect because of who you are. I think you're using a lot (a
*lot*) of patronizing, independently of the validity of your technical
(sorry, political... sorry, social... antropological? philosophical?
legal? historical?) arguments.
> It's not about you, Juanma - and it's not about me. It's about the
> pseudo-warning message, regardless of who is behind that initiative.
Oh, yes, it is a bit about you, as you're the one royaly pissed by the
warning... on behalf of some semi-mythical users that you somehow
stand to protect. You know, that great contingent of / Emacs 24+ /
Windows / users / having an _emacs init file /.
> The message is not warning about anything. It's simply telling a user that
> `_emacs' is deprecated. That's not a warning. There is no danger.
Of course there is a danger. The danger of the user upgrading to a new
Emacs and failing to understand why their _emacs suddenly stopped
working[1]. In fact, if we don't warn about it, some users will be
caught unawares.
[1] Yes, I'm using singular they.
> We don't need to tell users this at Emacs startup - it's not a big deal that
> `_emacs' is being deprecated. Users are often frightened by "**WARNING**" -
> and
> that's part of its effect. But there is no call for frightening users here.
They shouldn't be frightened. They should be warned.
Juanma
- Re: Deprecate _emacs on Windows, (continued)
Re: Deprecate _emacs on Windows, Stefan Monnier, 2011/03/12
- Re: Deprecate _emacs on Windows, Juanma Barranquero, 2011/03/12
- RE: Deprecate _emacs on Windows, Drew Adams, 2011/03/22
- Re: Deprecate _emacs on Windows, Juanma Barranquero, 2011/03/22
- RE: Deprecate _emacs on Windows, Drew Adams, 2011/03/22
- Re: Deprecate _emacs on Windows, Juanma Barranquero, 2011/03/22
- RE: Deprecate _emacs on Windows, Drew Adams, 2011/03/22
- Re: Deprecate _emacs on Windows,
Juanma Barranquero <=
- Re: Deprecate _emacs on Windows, Juanma Barranquero, 2011/03/22
- Re: Deprecate _emacs on Windows, Stephen J. Turnbull, 2011/03/24
- Re: Deprecate _emacs on Windows, Juanma Barranquero, 2011/03/24
RE: Deprecate _emacs on Windows, Drew Adams, 2011/03/22
Re: Deprecate _emacs on Windows, Juanma Barranquero, 2011/03/22
RE: Deprecate _emacs on Windows, Stephen J. Turnbull, 2011/03/22
Re: Deprecate _emacs on Windows, Juanma Barranquero, 2011/03/22
Re: Deprecate _emacs on Windows, Óscar Fuentes, 2011/03/23
Re: Deprecate _emacs on Windows, Juanma Barranquero, 2011/03/23
Re: Deprecate _emacs on Windows, Fabian Ezequiel Gallina, 2011/03/23