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Re: Subwindow terminology
From: |
martin rudalics |
Subject: |
Re: Subwindow terminology |
Date: |
Mon, 07 Nov 2011 11:18:15 +0100 |
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Thunderbird 2.0.0.21 (Windows/20090302) |
> No, I'll just deal with the fallout when XEmacs needs to sync to this
> ill-conceived mess. Martin doesn't write anything about why history
> of a window tree matters to Lisp programmers,
Because Martin doesn't care.
> but instead writes many
> things like
>
> But since I apparently failed to convey the semantics of this
> variable in the Elisp manual, someone else will have to take care
> of writing such a description.
>
> and
>
> > Why do you need to talk about subwindows at all?
>
> Because I didn't give this a thought yet ;-)
>
> If he needs to repeat those statements at this point, y'all are up to
> your necks in the Big Muddy.
The term subwindow was in code and documentations for many years. If
people decide, at a certain point in time, that they don't like the term
any more, they recognize too late in what kind of Muddy they've been all
that time.
> And reading *all* of both bugs doesn't explain why history of a window
> tree matters, except to Martin personally because he's the one who has
> to make sure invariants are maintained across operations on window
> trees. But the rest of us *using* the API are counting on him to get
> those invariants right.
As stated repeatedly I never cared about the history of a window tree
and will not do so in the future.
> Any place you feel a *need* to use the term "subwindow" needs more
> thought about what you're actually doing. :-) (Of course I have an
> ulterior motive here, in that XEmacs uses the term "subwindow" for a
> completely different kind of object, a "native widget", but I think
> that sentence is nevertheless true.)
Meanwhile I removed all references to the term subwindow from code and
documentation.
martin
- Re: Subwindow terminology, (continued)
- Re: Subwindow terminology, Dave Abrahams, 2011/11/05
- Re: Subwindow terminology, martin rudalics, 2011/11/06
- Re: Subwindow terminology, Dave Abrahams, 2011/11/06
- Re: Subwindow terminology, martin rudalics, 2011/11/06
- Re: Subwindow terminology, Dave Abrahams, 2011/11/06
- Re: Subwindow terminology, martin rudalics, 2011/11/06
- Re: Subwindow terminology, Stephen J. Turnbull, 2011/11/06
- Re: Subwindow terminology, martin rudalics, 2011/11/06
- Re: Subwindow terminology, Eli Zaretskii, 2011/11/06
- Re: Subwindow terminology, Stephen J. Turnbull, 2011/11/06
- Re: Subwindow terminology,
martin rudalics <=
- Re: Subwindow terminology, Chong Yidong, 2011/11/08
- Re: Subwindow terminology, Stephen J. Turnbull, 2011/11/06
- Re: Subwindow terminology, martin rudalics, 2011/11/07
Re: Subwindow terminology, martin rudalics, 2011/11/07