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Re: Emacs 24.0.93 Pretest Windows Binaries published
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Ted Zlatanov |
Subject: |
Re: Emacs 24.0.93 Pretest Windows Binaries published |
Date: |
Thu, 02 Feb 2012 16:46:17 -0500 |
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Gnus/5.130002 (Ma Gnus v0.2) Emacs/24.0.93 (gnu/linux) |
On Thu, 2 Feb 2012 11:52:25 -0800 "Drew Adams" <address@hidden> wrote:
DA> The readme is the only place we mention other Windows
DA> binaries - e.g. image binaries. Why treat GnuTLS specially?
DA> Either mention GnuTLS only in the readme (preferred)
DA> or mention in the announcement each of the binaries
DA> that mentioned in the readme (not preferred).
>>
>> I requested that GnuTLS be treated specially. I believe this is
>> necessary because it's important for secure networking on W32, unlike
>> any of the other libraries. This is a temporary remedy; I
>> will work on a W32 installer and then it won't be necessary
>> to mention GnuTLS explicitly (a link to the installer in the
>> announcement would be sufficient).
DA> 1. According to Eli, "It's an email authentication package." Which would
mean
DA> that it is needed only by people who use Emacs for email.
DA> At a minimum, that should be pointed out in the brief description that
needs to
DA> accompany this "special treatment".
DA> And that's the case wherever we choose to describe GnuTLS. (And it should
be
DA> described in the README, irregardless of whether it is described in the
DA> announcement.)
GnuTLS provides SSL and TLS encryption for any network connection, hence
"secure networking" in my earlier message. It can encrypt e-mail
protocols like IMAP and SMTP but does not deal with e-mail messages.
DA> 2. I'm not familiar with your proposed "installer", but I certainly hope
that we
DA> will continue to distribute a simple zip archive with a Windows binary.
DA> A priori, I for one will not use an installer to "install" the binary. I
use
DA> multiple Emacs Windows binaries, and I do not need an Emacs installer
mucking
DA> about with my registry etc. This is one reason I do not use Lennart's
DA> installer, for instance.
DA> It is blindingly simple for a user to unzip an archive in a directory of
choice,
DA> and create a startup shortcut. Nothing to it.
DA> What's the motivation for this installer? I can understand Lennart's
DA> motivation, since he has apparently customized many things, including at
the C
DA> level. But why do you think Emacs users on Windows need an installer for
DA> vanilla Emacs?
DA> I have nothing against the general idea of our providing an installer in
DA> _addition_ to our providing zip archives, but I would not want to see the
latter
DA> practice dropped.
Any installer I assemble will not replace the Emacs binaries and will
not be as "official" as Christoph's binaries. It will not involve
emacs-devel resources, at least.
I've covered the reasons for the installer on this list, going back and
forth over several alternatives. This was a very recent thread. An
installer seems to be the best approach but you can read through the
discussion and decide for yourself.
Ted
- Re: Emacs 24.0.93 Pretest Windows Binaries published, Ted Zlatanov, 2012/02/02
- RE: Emacs 24.0.93 Pretest Windows Binaries published, Drew Adams, 2012/02/02
- Re: Emacs 24.0.93 Pretest Windows Binaries published,
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- need help with certificate bundles for ALL the platforms Emacs supports (was: GnuTLS invasion of Emacs published)), Ted Zlatanov, 2012/02/09
- Re: need help with certificate bundles for ALL the platforms Emacs supports (was: GnuTLS invasion of Emacs published)), Eli Zaretskii, 2012/02/09
- Re: need help with certificate bundles for ALL the platforms Emacs supports, Ted Zlatanov, 2012/02/10
- Re: need help with certificate bundles for ALL the platforms Emacs supports, Eli Zaretskii, 2012/02/10