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Re: BEGIN_SRC..END_SRC
From: |
Antoine Levitt |
Subject: |
Re: BEGIN_SRC..END_SRC |
Date: |
Sat, 05 May 2012 17:10:05 +0200 |
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Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/24.1.50 (gnu/linux) |
05/05/12 16:35, Drew Adams
>> Thanks, but why isn't this done in general-purpose font-lock of email
>> messages? Why limit this to Gnus?
>
> Bzzzzt - wrong question. The question is NOT why we don't extend or
> generalize
> it to other Emacs email paraphernalia besides Gnus. The question is why we
> send
> this crap at all in plain-text messages?
>
> That such markup might be useful within Org mode or Gnus or even Emacs
> generally
> is no reason to expose it in plain-text mail.
>
> We discourage the use of HTML messages in GNU mailing lists. But then
> Gnus/Org/Emacs goes and rolls its own simulacrum? And then everyone who is
> not
> using Emacs for mail has the obligatory privilege of seeing the markup?
>
> If Gnus/Emacs wants to render HTML or XML markup, great. Email clients of
> many
> stripes generally know how to do that, so users do not see the markup itself.
>
> But whatever Gnus/Emacs decides to do about markup and "looking pretty",
> please
> keep the markup out of plain-text messages. Some mailing list subscribers
> read
> and write mail outside of Emacs (imagine that). And some mailing lists are
> mirrored to newsgroups and websites that can also be accessed without Emacs
> (imagine that).
>
> "Font-lock" prettifying doesn't mean a whole lot to the outside world.
>
> (Note: I would have no problem with the GNU mailing lists NOT discouraging
> HTML
> messages. My point is that we should not (a) discourage HTML and then (b)
> bring
> in some artisanal, Emacs-specific markup through the back door. HTML and XML
> at
> least provide (more or less) standard markup that is supported by many
> clients.)
>
> #+END_GNUS
The main problem with HTML emails is that they may be rendered
completely garbled depending on the viewer. You can't look at a HTML
message in plain text and make sense of it (of course, these days, HTML
messages usually include a sensible multipart plain text). You're very
welcome to completely ignore two lines of the mail. Then again, you're
just looking for a fight (again?) I'm not willing to get into, so feel
free to ignore this message as well.
Presumably it could be implemented by making it a minor mode that is
turned on by gnus/org by default and can also be turned on by other
modes or by the user?
- lexical-binding questions, Thierry Volpiatto, 2012/05/05
- Re: lexical-binding questions, Thierry Volpiatto, 2012/05/05
- BEGIN_SRC..END_SRC (was: lexical-binding questions), Eli Zaretskii, 2012/05/05
- Re: BEGIN_SRC..END_SRC, Tom Rauchenwald, 2012/05/05
- Re: BEGIN_SRC..END_SRC, Eli Zaretskii, 2012/05/05
- RE: BEGIN_SRC..END_SRC, Drew Adams, 2012/05/05
- Re: BEGIN_SRC..END_SRC,
Antoine Levitt <=
- RE: BEGIN_SRC..END_SRC, Drew Adams, 2012/05/05
- Re: BEGIN_SRC..END_SRC, Peter Münster, 2012/05/05
- RE: BEGIN_SRC..END_SRC, Drew Adams, 2012/05/05
- Re: BEGIN_SRC..END_SRC, John Wiegley, 2012/05/06
- Re: BEGIN_SRC..END_SRC, Ted Zlatanov, 2012/05/06
- Re: BEGIN_SRC..END_SRC, Miles Bader, 2012/05/07
- Re: BEGIN_SRC..END_SRC, Thien-Thi Nguyen, 2012/05/07
- Re: BEGIN_SRC..END_SRC, Ted Zlatanov, 2012/05/06
- Re: BEGIN_SRC..END_SRC, Yann Hodique, 2012/05/05
- Re: BEGIN_SRC..END_SRC, Stephen J. Turnbull, 2012/05/05