Re: ELPA and core services

[Lennart Borgman]

On Sun, Jun 24, 2012 at 11:12 PM, John Wiegley <address@hidden> wrote:
>>>>>> Christopher Schmidt <address@hidden> writes:
>
>> I do not agree with GNU ELPA not being applicable for core services.  I
>> think every single package that is not absolutely necessary for running a
>> bare Emacs should be moved to GNU ELPA.
>
> Please, please no.  I use lots of Emacsen on lots of machines, and only a few
> have my configuration copied over.  Please don't turn unconfigured Emacsen
> into brain-dead zombies of little value.  I rely on the fact that Eshell
> exists on every Windows machine that has Emacs.  And not all of these have a
> network connection for me to even use ELPA, if that company's web proxy would
> even allow it.
>
> I think you may be considering this issue only from the
> single-power-user-with-net-access point of view.
>
>> On top of that, IMO every single core package should have a copy on GNU ELPA
>> so one can to overwrite the native GNU Emacs one with the one from GNU ELPA.
>> This would decouple all packages from the Emacs release cycle and allow bug
>> fixes to be distributed instantly.
>
> Now, this I agree with completely.  ELPA overrides is a great idea, and I
> think it could accelerate development -- as long as inter-package version
> dependencies are managed.  If the newest Gnus suddenly depends on the the
> newest something-else, that something-else should be installed/updated along
> with it automatically.

I agree with John on both points here.