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Re: Yet another discussion on improving the first time user experience
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Eli Zaretskii |
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Re: Yet another discussion on improving the first time user experience |
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Mon, 23 Sep 2013 11:20:15 +0300 |
> Date: Mon, 23 Sep 2013 09:30:25 +0200
> From: Andreas Röhler <address@hidden>
> CC: address@hidden
>
> Am 23.09.2013 09:07, schrieb Eli Zaretskii:
> >> Date: Mon, 23 Sep 2013 08:03:30 +0200
> >> From: Andreas Röhler <address@hidden>
> >>
> >> Am 23.09.2013 02:18, schrieb Lennart Borgman:
> >>> The tutorial kind of throws other keybindings than the arrow keys on the
> >>> new user. Kind of patronizing if someone asks me. ;-)
> >>
> >> Putting users first attention at that kind of matter, it also spreads a
> >> quit unjust and wrong impression WRT Emacs and it's people.
> >>
> >> That tutorial probably was okay twenty years ago.
> >> No it reads as vim's ":q" is envied, proving emacs can make it difficult
> >> too.
> >
> > When did you read it last time? also 20 years ago?
> >
>
>
> At the very first screen C-v is presented.
> Nowadays keyboards commonly have an own key for it, no need to bother
> beginners with this.
> While later, certainly, it's preferable.
>
> Next screen tells about C-p, C-n
> That must have been changed very recently ;)
Do you always read only the first 2 pages?
- Re: Yet another discussion on improving the first time user experience, (continued)
- Re: Yet another discussion on improving the first time user experience, Dmitry Gutov, 2013/09/22
- Re: Yet another discussion on improving the first time user experience, Pascal J. Bourguignon, 2013/09/22
- Re: Yet another discussion on improving the first time user experience, Eli Zaretskii, 2013/09/22
- Re: Yet another discussion on improving the first time user experience, Dmitry Gutov, 2013/09/22
- Re: Yet another discussion on improving the first time user experience, Jay Belanger, 2013/09/22
- Re: Yet another discussion on improving the first time user experience, Lennart Borgman, 2013/09/22
- Re: Yet another discussion on improving the first time user experience, Jay Belanger, 2013/09/22
- Re: Yet another discussion on improving the first time user experience, Andreas Röhler, 2013/09/23
- Re: Yet another discussion on improving the first time user experience, Eli Zaretskii, 2013/09/23
- Re: Yet another discussion on improving the first time user experience, Andreas Röhler, 2013/09/23
- Re: Yet another discussion on improving the first time user experience,
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- Re: Yet another discussion on improving the first time user experience, Eli Zaretskii, 2013/09/23
- Re: Yet another discussion on improving the first time user experience, Andreas Röhler, 2013/09/23
- Re: Yet another discussion on improving the first time user experience, Eli Zaretskii, 2013/09/23
- Re: Yet another discussion on improving the first time user experience, Andreas Röhler, 2013/09/23
- Re: Yet another discussion on improving the first time user experience, Pascal J. Bourguignon, 2013/09/23
- Re: Yet another discussion on improving the first time user experience, Andreas Röhler, 2013/09/23
- Re: Yet another discussion on improving the first time user experience, Xue Fuqiao, 2013/09/24
- Re: Yet another discussion on improving the first time user experience, Pascal J. Bourguignon, 2013/09/24
- Re: Yet another discussion on improving the first time user experience, Davis Herring, 2013/09/24
- Re: Yet another discussion on improving the first time user experience, Eli Zaretskii, 2013/09/23