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Re: Including Yasnippet to Emacs

From: Danil Orlov
Subject: Re: Including Yasnippet to Emacs
Date: Mon, 17 Mar 2014 23:09:42 +0200
User-agent: Mutt/1.5.21 (2010-09-15)

Okay, I've got your point.

On Mon, Mar 17, 2014 at 03:36:42PM -0400, Stefan wrote:
> > I've checked those ones you noted, even snippet.el. They all are not so
> > powerful and user-friendly as yasnippet.
> snippet.el is not designed to be user-friendly, but to be easy to
> integrate in a major-mode instead (yasnippet rather sucks in this
> regard, you end up needing to distribute umpteen little files instead).
> [ BTW, part of the intention behind snippet.el is to make Edebug work
>   with them.  Si in some cases they may turn out to be more
>   user-friendly, rather than less so.  ]
> As for "not so powerful", I'm not sure what you mean: they should be
> pretty much as powerful as yasnippet's since yasnippet will be written
> on top of them.  And of course, they can run any Lisp code you like.
> > And they are all not manage keybindings.
> This layer is not provided yet, indeed.  E.g. I want to link snippet.el with
> abbrevs, so the "table of snippets" will be an abbrev table.
> > And probably not support expansion depending on context in simple way.
> Not sure what "in a simple way" means.
> > And docs are really stingy.
> For skeleton.el, the system is trivial enough that I don't know what
> more docs we could provide.  For snippet.el, it's still in flux and
> there are indeed no docs yet, IIRC.
> > And snippet language is not so powerful and readable, as in yasnippet.
> "Readable" here is in the eye of the beholder.  But the whole idea
> behind snippet.el is to get rid of this dichotomy: you can write your
> snippets using the Lispish snippet.el syntax (i.e. a syntax that
> makes sense to me) or you can write them in the yasnippet syntax if
> you prefer $ over parentheses.
>         Stefan

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