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Re: [Emacs-diffs] master 4e23cd0 4/5: * mail/rmail.el (rmail-show-messag
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Eli Zaretskii |
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Re: [Emacs-diffs] master 4e23cd0 4/5: * mail/rmail.el (rmail-show-message-1): When displaying a mime message, |
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Thu, 09 Apr 2015 10:27:36 +0300 |
> Date: Thu, 09 Apr 2015 04:16:29 +0300
> From: Dmitry Gutov <address@hidden>
> Cc: Richard Stallman <address@hidden>, address@hidden
>
> On 04/08/2015 01:48 PM, Alan Mackenzie wrote:
>
> > I don't think think that's a valid comparison. In Emacs, you chose what
> > level of complexity you work at, and you can learn it gradually. At a
> > basic level, you can work Emacs with self-insert keys, arrow keys, and
> > six or seven essential commands (C-g, C-x C-f, C-x C-s, C-x C-c, C-/, and
> > one or two others). All these commands are "simple", in the sense they
> > don't require you to specify obscure options, or anything like that.
>
> There's nothing interesting in Emacs on that level.
There's no requirement for a tool to be "interesting", only to be
useful, and let one do their job.
> I certainly wouldn't have been as productive in it as I am now if I
> stopped at it.
There's no requirement to be more productive with Git beyond being
able to push changes.
> If you like, make an analogy to only working in a local Git repository,
> and only in one branch. It's easy, even somewhat useful, but not what
> most people do.
No, Git isn't useful that way. Emacs, by contrast, is a useful text
editor even if you use the most basic commands and cursor motion keys.
> > In git, the complexity seems gratuitous - the user is exposed to the
> > maximum level of detail possible rather than the minimum required to use
> > it productively.
>
> "Maximum" is an exaggeration.
Yes, it is. But you have to admit that Git requires a newbie to learn
quite a lot -- new terminology, several new commands, and new
procedures -- as a _prerequisite_ for being able to work in a single
remote-tracking branch. And this is the core problem here.
- Re: [Emacs-diffs] master 4e23cd0 4/5: * mail/rmail.el (rmail-show-message-1): When displaying a mime message,, (continued)
- Re: [Emacs-diffs] master 4e23cd0 4/5: * mail/rmail.el (rmail-show-message-1): When displaying a mime message,, Eli Zaretskii, 2015/04/07
- Re: [Emacs-diffs] master 4e23cd0 4/5: * mail/rmail.el (rmail-show-message-1): When displaying a mime message,, Alan Mackenzie, 2015/04/07
- Re: [Emacs-diffs] master 4e23cd0 4/5: * mail/rmail.el (rmail-show-message-1): When displaying a mime message,, Eli Zaretskii, 2015/04/07
- Re: [Emacs-diffs] master 4e23cd0 4/5: * mail/rmail.el (rmail-show-message-1): When displaying a mime message,, Alan Mackenzie, 2015/04/07
- Re: [Emacs-diffs] master 4e23cd0 4/5: * mail/rmail.el (rmail-show-message-1): When displaying a mime message,, Eli Zaretskii, 2015/04/08
- Re: [Emacs-diffs] master 4e23cd0 4/5: * mail/rmail.el (rmail-show-message-1): When displaying a mime message,, Dmitry Gutov, 2015/04/07
- Re: [Emacs-diffs] master 4e23cd0 4/5: * mail/rmail.el (rmail-show-message-1): When displaying a mime message,, Alan Mackenzie, 2015/04/08
- Re: [Emacs-diffs] master 4e23cd0 4/5: * mail/rmail.el (rmail-show-message-1): When displaying a mime message,, chad, 2015/04/08
- Re: [Emacs-diffs] master 4e23cd0 4/5: * mail/rmail.el (rmail-show-message-1): When displaying a mime message,, Richard Stallman, 2015/04/09
- Re: [Emacs-diffs] master 4e23cd0 4/5: * mail/rmail.el (rmail-show-message-1): When displaying a mime message,, Dmitry Gutov, 2015/04/08
- Re: [Emacs-diffs] master 4e23cd0 4/5: * mail/rmail.el (rmail-show-message-1): When displaying a mime message,,
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- Re: [Emacs-diffs] master 4e23cd0 4/5: * mail/rmail.el (rmail-show-message-1): When displaying a mime message,, Dmitry Gutov, 2015/04/09
- Re: [Emacs-diffs] master 4e23cd0 4/5: * mail/rmail.el (rmail-show-message-1): When displaying a mime message,, Eli Zaretskii, 2015/04/09
- Re: [Emacs-diffs] master 4e23cd0 4/5: * mail/rmail.el (rmail-show-message-1): When displaying a mime message,, Dmitry Gutov, 2015/04/09
- Re: [Emacs-diffs] master 4e23cd0 4/5: * mail/rmail.el (rmail-show-message-1): When displaying a mime message,, Richard Stallman, 2015/04/08
- Re: [Emacs-diffs] master 4e23cd0 4/5: * mail/rmail.el (rmail-show-message-1): When displaying a mime message,, Dmitry Gutov, 2015/04/08
- Re: [Emacs-diffs] master 4e23cd0 4/5: * mail/rmail.el (rmail-show-message-1): When displaying a mime message,, Eli Zaretskii, 2015/04/09
- Re: [Emacs-diffs] master 4e23cd0 4/5: * mail/rmail.el (rmail-show-message-1): When displaying a mime message,, Stephen J. Turnbull, 2015/04/09
- Re: [Emacs-diffs] master 4e23cd0 4/5: * mail/rmail.el (rmail-show-message-1): When displaying a mime message,, Eli Zaretskii, 2015/04/09
- Re: [Emacs-diffs] master 4e23cd0 4/5: * mail/rmail.el (rmail-show-message-1): When displaying a mime message,, Stephen J. Turnbull, 2015/04/10
- Re: [Emacs-diffs] master 4e23cd0 4/5: * mail/rmail.el (rmail-show-message-1): When displaying a mime message,, Eli Zaretskii, 2015/04/10