Re: Differences between Org-Mode and Hyperbole

[Phillip Lord]

On Mon, July 4, 2016 10:20 pm, Richard Stallman wrote:
>> The beauty is that only that specific line has to contain the TODO
>> information. The whole buffer is not a TODO list. If you think along
>> those lines, org-mode has made it possible to have different major mode
>> like behaviors in the same buffer.
>
> If you want to keep a todo list in the same file as your code, and
> have special editing commands, you'd want to be able to do that in any kind
> of file, with any major mode.  Not only in files for which you use Org
> mode.  In C files, and Lisp files, and LaTeX files, and HTML files, and so
> on.
>
> Correct me if I'm wrong, but I think Org mode doesn't do that.
>
>
> So what we would want is a general package for having different major
> modes in different parts of a buffer.  I believe there is at least one
> such project under way.

My own package (lentic) achieves this already although by a different
mechanism from having two major modes in one buffer -- rather it allows
two buffers to share related text. It allows use of org-mode TODO lists
(or any other org-mode markup) in lisp files (also, currently, lua, bash,
python). Or you can mix and match lisp and latex.



>> - The TODO headlines can have a "property block" which can contain a
>> wide range of meta properties to be used during export, tangling, etc.
>
> What does it mean to "export", and why would you want to do that to a
> TODO list?

So you can put it on the web. I think exporting is more useful for things
other than a TODO list though. This is the source code of lentic, for
example, turned into org-mode, then exported to HTML with skinned with an
info like javascript.

http://homepages.cs.ncl.ac.uk/phillip.lord/lentic/lenticular.html


>> - Different face for displaying and different export style based on the
>>  headline level of that TODO line. - Under those TODO headlines, you can
>> have regular or check-list style children TODO headlines. - Some of those
>> could have just regular paragraphs or numbered/plain/definition lists or
>> source blocks or quotation blocks or ..... which should behave in
>> display/export as per the org mode convention.
>
>> - They can have internal/external links, footnotes, etc.
>>
>
> Why is it useful to do these fancy things for a TODO list?

For all of these I cannot say (although it is useful to do these things
for other reasons). But checkboxes are great. Org counts how many you have
done as you check them off.

Phil