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Re: [PATCH] Enable customisation for electric-quote-mode chars
From: |
Göktuğ Kayaalp |
Subject: |
Re: [PATCH] Enable customisation for electric-quote-mode chars |
Date: |
Mon, 29 Aug 2016 20:19:34 +0300 |
> From: Eli Zaretskii <address@hidden>
> Date: 2016-08-29 07:39:32 PM +0300
> Eli Zaretskii wrote:
>> From: Göktuğ Kayaalp <address@hidden>
>> Cc: address@hidden, address@hidden
>> Date: Mon, 29 Aug 2016 19:27:42 +0300
>>
>> > From: Eli Zaretskii <address@hidden>
>> > Date: 2016-08-29 06:08:25 PM +0300
>> > Eli Zaretskii wrote:
>> >> From: Göktuğ Kayaalp <address@hidden>
>> >> Cc: address@hidden, address@hidden
>> >> Date: Mon, 29 Aug 2016 08:28:19 +0300
>>
>> (I'm sorry for /borrowing/ your citation style, but it's very nice, I
>> couldn't refuse. Hope that doesn't annoy you :) I've made it a bit
>> different though.)
>
> It's not me, it's Rmail that's doing this. (No, I'm not annoyed, of
> course not.)
I use rmail too, but I had already my cit. line customized some time ago
when I used Gnus, so I didn't se this format until now.
I'll wait and follow the thread for at least a couple days for comments,
and if I don't have the chance earlier, I'll post an updated patch on
Saturday.
>> >> +quote characters. It's possible to change the default quotes listed
>> >> +above, by customizing the variable @code{electric-quote-chars}, a list
>> >> +of four characters, where the items correspond to the left single
>> >> +quote, the right single quote, the left double quote and the right
>> >> +double quote, respectively, whose default value is
>> >> address@hidden'(?‘ ?’ ?“ ?”)}.
>> >
>> > There's no need to go to such detail when describing a customizable
>> > option. The Customize interface should be enough for the user to
>> > figure out what to do.
>>
>> Then I can remove the part after reference to the variable name, and
>> improve the defcustom's documentation (see below). Is that okay?
>
> Yes.
>
>> > Default (‘..’ “..”)
>> > Arabic (".." ”..“)
>> > German (‚..‛ „..“)
>> > French (‹..› «..»)
>> > Cyrillic (‚..‘ «..»)
>> >
>> > etc. WDYT? (See https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Quotation_mark for
>> > some more.)
>>
>> Well I think we'd rather not do that but improve the docstring instead,
>> because, looking at the big summary table on the page you linked [1]
>> there's not only a lot of variance among languages, but some of them
>> have multiple standard and alternative forms, and some don't have single
>> quotes (e.g. Persian). I think we'd better keep the defaults and
>> improve the documentation, and not have implement all the languages nor
>> have to pick a subset.
>
> If no one else thinks my suggestion is a significant improvement, I
> won't insist. (And of course, we don't need to implement the entire
> Wikipedia list, I'm not even sure it's accurate.)
>
> It could be enough to mention some of the possibilities in the doc
> string, together with their cultural affiliations.
>
>> Maybe we could leave setting these variables to the language environment
>> if that's possible?
>
> I think it's too early for that, we haven't yet figured out how to set
> up language dependent settings. One problem with the idea you raise
> is that a user can reside in a certain locale, but use universal
> settings commonly used in multilingual environments.
>
>> Please direct me on how to proceed, and I'll update the patch as soon as
>> I can
>
> I would suggest to wait for a couple of days for more comments. If no
> one supports my suggestions about language-tagged alternatives, you
> can disregard them, and only make the documentation changes already
> mentioned.
>
> Thanks.
>
Best,
-goktug.
--
İ. Göktuğ Kayaalp.
http://gkayaalp.com/
- Re: [PATCH] Enable customisation for electric-quote-mode chars, (continued)
- Re: [PATCH] Enable customisation for electric-quote-mode chars, Paul Eggert, 2016/08/27
- Re: [PATCH] Enable customisation for electric-quote-mode chars, Göktuğ Kayaalp, 2016/08/27
- Re: [PATCH] Enable customisation for electric-quote-mode chars, Paul Eggert, 2016/08/28
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- Re: [PATCH] Enable customisation for electric-quote-mode chars, Yuri Khan, 2016/08/29
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- Re: [PATCH] Enable customisation for electric-quote-mode chars, Eli Zaretskii, 2016/08/29
- Re: [PATCH] Enable customisation for electric-quote-mode chars, Paul Eggert, 2016/08/30
- Re: [PATCH] Enable customisation for electric-quote-mode chars, Eli Zaretskii, 2016/08/30
- Re: [PATCH] Enable customisation for electric-quote-mode chars, Richard Stallman, 2016/08/31
- tarball builds (was: [PATCH] Enable customisation for electric-quote-mode chars), Stefan Monnier, 2016/08/30
- Re: tarball builds (was: [PATCH] Enable customisation for electric-quote-mode chars), Eli Zaretskii, 2016/08/30
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