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Re: What improvements would be truly useful?
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Eli Zaretskii |
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Re: What improvements would be truly useful? |
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Fri, 09 Mar 2018 15:53:33 +0200 |
> From: address@hidden (Phillip Lord)
> Cc: Marcin Borkowski <address@hidden>, address@hidden, address@hidden,
> address@hidden, address@hidden, address@hidden, address@hidden
> Date: Fri, 09 Mar 2018 10:56:00 +0000
>
> > Are you saying that either of these is a WYSIWYG word processor?
>
> No. But, then Word or LibreOffice are not WYSIWYG either.
This is just a minor semantic issue: let's assume for the purposes of
the current discussion that the definition of a WYSIWYG word processor
is what the Office word processors do.
> Org-mode is essentially a structure first view of text. AUCTeX with
> preview-latex is roughly the same thing. So, both of them have strong
> aspects of modern word-processor.
They both provide the final view of the document only off-line, and
that is the crucial difference, for the purposes of this discussion.
> If Emacs were able to turn org-mode into HTML, render that HTML and
> then make changes to the text of that HTML, then you'd have something
> close to the modal views. Or something like preview-latex which uses
> syntax highlighting to provide the WYS aspect but allows you to turn it
> on and off.
Emacs is capable of displaying text with different typefaces, so it
isn't clear to me why would we need to go through a translator, such
as Org export or LaTeX.
> How easy this would be to implement, I do not know. Emacs does not have
> an MVC architecture -- text properties (i.e. visualization) are stored
> directly with the contents of a buffer, so switching views is clunky or
> difficult (see my own lentic.el for an example).
Actually, MVC is exactly the Emacs architecture. (And text properties
are stored separately from the buffer contents.) I wonder what kind
of misunderstanding is at work here.
- Re: What improvements would be truly useful?, (continued)
- Re: What improvements would be truly useful?, Marcin Borkowski, 2018/03/11
- Re: What improvements would be truly useful?, Marcin Borkowski, 2018/03/06
- Re: What improvements would be truly useful?, Eli Zaretskii, 2018/03/06
- Re: What improvements would be truly useful?, Marcin Borkowski, 2018/03/06
- Re: What improvements would be truly useful?, Eli Zaretskii, 2018/03/07
- Re: What improvements would be truly useful?, Marcin Borkowski, 2018/03/07
- Re: What improvements would be truly useful?, Eli Zaretskii, 2018/03/07
- Re: What improvements would be truly useful?, Marcin Borkowski, 2018/03/07
- Re: What improvements would be truly useful?, Richard Stallman, 2018/03/07
- Re: What improvements would be truly useful?, Phillip Lord, 2018/03/09
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