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Re: Bloat in the Emacs Windows package
From: |
Óscar Fuentes |
Subject: |
Re: Bloat in the Emacs Windows package |
Date: |
Mon, 22 Apr 2019 23:41:37 +0200 |
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Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/27.0.50 (gnu/linux) |
address@hidden (Phillip Lord) writes:
>> We have the no-deps package, but with dozens of MB of debug info and a
>> duplicated large binary. I doubt this benefits 0.1% of the Emacs user
>> base. And that benefit is just a minor convenience for them.
>
> I made the no-deps package to address your use case -- when you have the
> dependencies already. Size was not my primary concern.
In my view the no-deps is geared towards those who just want to edit
text. It is great to have image support, but I'm sure many Emacs users
don't really care. A different thing is the lack of grep/find, though.
>> And then we have the issue with general bloat in IT and the associated
>> waste. I feel morally obligued to not contribute to that waste.
>
> I agree that this is morally correct; but then so is producing free
> software which is competitive with non-free software. I do not believe
> that an Emacs incapable of loading jpgs or using its own package manager
> securely fulfils that objective.
See above. However, I was referring to the debug info and emacs.exe
duplication, not to the accompanying software that goes with the
no-no-deps.
- Re: Bloat in the Emacs Windows package, (continued)
- Re: Bloat in the Emacs Windows package, Phillip Lord, 2019/04/17
- Re: Bloat in the Emacs Windows package, Stefan Monnier, 2019/04/17
- Re: Bloat in the Emacs Windows package, Björn Lindqvist, 2019/04/18
- Re: Bloat in the Emacs Windows package, Eli Zaretskii, 2019/04/19
- Re: Bloat in the Emacs Windows package, Óscar Fuentes, 2019/04/19
- Re: Bloat in the Emacs Windows package, Phillip Lord, 2019/04/22
- Re: Bloat in the Emacs Windows package,
Óscar Fuentes <=
Re: Bloat in the Emacs Windows package, Stefan Monnier, 2019/04/17
Re: Bloat in the Emacs Windows package, Björn Lindqvist, 2019/04/17
- Re: Bloat in the Emacs Windows package, Eli Zaretskii, 2019/04/17
- Re: Bloat in the Emacs Windows package, Björn Lindqvist, 2019/04/18
- Re: Bloat in the Emacs Windows package, Eli Zaretskii, 2019/04/19
- Re: Bloat in the Emacs Windows package, Óscar Fuentes, 2019/04/19
- Re: Bloat in the Emacs Windows package, Eli Zaretskii, 2019/04/19
- Re: Bloat in the Emacs Windows package, Phillip Lord, 2019/04/22