Re: New Package for NonGNU-ELPA: clojure-ts-mode

[Dmitry Gutov]

On 01/09/2023 16:51, Eli Zaretskii wrote:
> > Date: Fri, 1 Sep 2023 16:44:35 +0300
> > Cc:jschmidt4gnu@vodafonemail.de,philipk@posteo.net,luangruo@yahoo.com,
> >   stefankangas@gmail.com,emacs-devel@gnu.org
> > From: Dmitry Gutov<dmitry@gutov.dev>
> >
> > On 01/09/2023 16:16, Eli Zaretskii wrote:
> > > > I can turn them off selectively in my MUA.
> > > > IMHO, this is not any different from how I approach mailing lists - most
> > > > of the discussions on ML are not interesting to me and I simply filter
> > > > them out. I think Gnus scoring is relevant (although I use different
> > > > approach).
> > > How is this consistent with complaints about the difficulties of using
> > > a MUA in sophisticated ways?
> > Very consistent: people who find using a MUA in complex ways difficult
> > don't set up additional filtering and usually don't complain about it
> > (the default volume of notifications usually seems fine for me, for
> > example).
> >
> > What's odd is when people who know how to set up MUA filters and
> > everything produce such complaints.
> Such responses make me wish I never participated in this discussion.

No need to be rude.

You judged some other people's workflows by your own standards and got 
an answer that when participating in those workflows it's entirely 
feasible to improve them to your liking using the tools you are 
certainly familiar with (and not just you, but every old-timer with a 
customizable MUA). I got that answer every time when pointing difficulty 
managing the email-driven workflow here (I only have a 
moderately-customizable MUA, however).

And that those other people (ones with web-based workflows) are largely 
unbothered by their experience, possibly due to not knowing better 
alternatives (but that very debatable). But they can also customize 
their notification a little if they're using Github, and a lot, if 
they're using Gitlab.

There is a dedicated section in Github's docs about filtering on the 
level of MUA: 
https://docs.github.com/en/account-and-profile/managing-subscriptions-and-notifications-on-github/setting-up-notifications/configuring-notifications#filtering-email-notifications, 
though for some reasons they don't mention the available headers 
X-Github-Reason and X-Github-Sender.

What is missing here?

Re. using Gitlab I already said I'd try to look into settings for 
filtering emails, if we ever reach the stage of experimenting with it 
when it becomes relevant. There existing controls listed are here, and 
there are a lot (perhaps they extended that feature over the several 
years since we last looked): 
https://docs.gitlab.com/ee/user/profile/notifications.html#notification-events-on-issues-merge-requests-and-epics