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Re: [Orgmode] Personal Finance in org-mode?


From: Madhu Rao
Subject: Re: [Orgmode] Personal Finance in org-mode?
Date: Mon, 13 Apr 2009 20:45:22 +0530


Hi Madhu,

Madhu Rao <address@hidden> writes:

Has anyone tried to configure org in a personal finance manager mode?
I looked in the mail archive, but couldn't find any related posts.

These threads contain some ideas about tracking finances in org-mode:

- http://thread.gmane.org/gmane.emacs.orgmode/10234/focus=10249
- http://thread.gmane.org/gmane.emacs.orgmode/9663
- http://thread.gmane.org/gmane.comp.finance.ledger.general/838

Hi Matt, Thanks for these links.


I thought org-mode with some remember capture templates will do that
stuff rather efficiently.

It depends on what you'd like to accomplish. For a robust accounting
solution (i.e., something that can easily tracks all your finances and
can spit out data in all sorts of ways) I would second Carsten's
recommendation of John Wiegley's ledger.

For a while, I tried a home-brewed double bookkeeping solution in org
mode using properties and columns. I used a small subtree for each
transaction with one subitem for the debit and one for the credit, with
properties spendtype, account, assets, liabilities, income, equity,
expenses. The structure of the tree was as follows:


Yes, this is pretty much what I was intending to keep track of. I did
setup something similar to the outline below. Also, a remember
capture, with tags and property query for entry and the category:               

("Finance" ?f "** %^{Title} %^g \n %u %^{HOW_MUCH}p %^{CATEGORY}p" "~/ Org/Finance.org")

,----
| * Accounts
| ** April
| *** [2009-04-13 Mon] Transaction Name
| **** [2009-04-13 Mon] Debit
| **** [2009-04-13 Mon] Credit
| *** Opening Balances...
`----

The sum of all my accounts could then be viewed by invoking column view on the Accounts heading. Particular accounts could by summed up by using
agenda views and org-collector.

Yes, this will suffice. I will start off with using column view and
see how this scales.

Thanks for your notes.

Regards, Madhu


The problem here, of course, is that once you have a large number of
entries, it takes a lot of CPU cycles just to generate an account
summary, since org-mode has to climb the entire outline tree and grab
all the properties. In the end, I settled on ledger because of its
power, speed, and flexibility.

Best,
Matt





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