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[Orgmode] diary-remind, and org-agenda, and remember


From: Desmond Rivet
Subject: [Orgmode] diary-remind, and org-agenda, and remember
Date: Thu, 10 Sep 2009 19:15:46 -0400
User-agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/23.1.50 (gnu/linux)

Hi all,

I'm trying to implement a quick and easy way to add birthday reminder
functionality to my orgmode setup.  For this purpose, I've been using
sexp's like this (for example):

%%(diary-remind '(diary-date 9 20 t) -14) John's birthday..

When these appear in an org file, I get a reminder in the agenda
timeline view everyday for 14 days preceding the date in question.
Seems to work okay.

I have, however, been noticing some weirdness.  Or maybe I just
misunderstand how this all works.

For example, this will work in an org file (the reminders show up on the
agenda):

* Birthdays
%%(diary-remind '(diary-date 1 6 t) -14) Suzie's birthday.
%%(diary-remind '(diary-date 11 5 t) -14) John's birthday.

But this will *not* work in an org file (the reminders do *not* show
up):

* Birthdays
** %%(diary-remind '(diary-date 1 6 t) -14) Suzie's birthday.
** %%(diary-remind '(diary-date 11 5 t) -14) John's birthday.

I'm using the latest orgmode from the repository.

Anyway, this normally wouldn't be too much of a bother except that I'm
experimenting with org-remember to add the dates, and this seems to have
its own problems.

(I was recently having trouble with using '%' signs in the org remember
templates, but this particular problem has been solved.  Thanks!)

For example, when I have this in my dates.org file:

* Birthday
%%(diary-remind '(diary-date 1 6 t) -14) Suzie's birthday.
%%(diary-remind '(diary-date 11 5 t) -14) John's birthday.

with a remember template that looks like this:

(setq org-remember-templates
    '(
          ("Birthday" ?b "%\\%(diary-remind '(diary-date  %^{Month} %^{Day}  t) 
-%^{Remind days}) %^{Brief Description}%?" "~/pim/gtd/dates.org" "Birthdays")
     )
   )

then I get this when I finish with C-c C-c:

* Birthdays
%%(diary-remind '(diary-date 1 6 t) -14) Suzie's birthday.
%%(diary-remind '(diary-date 11 5 t) -14) John's birthday.
** Thu Sep 10 19:06:55 2009 (%%(diary-remind '(diary-date  12 12  t) -12) 12)
   %%(diary-remind '(diary-date  12 12  t) -12) 12

This is not what I was expecting.  I'm not sure what's happening there.

Of course, if I set up my dates.org to look like this:

* Birthdays
** %%(diary-remind '(diary-date 1 6 t) -14) Suzie's birthday.
** %%(diary-remind '(diary-date 11 5 t) -14) John's birthday.

and set up my remember template like this:

(setq org-remember-templates
    '(
          ("Birthday" ?b "* %\\%(diary-remind '(diary-date  %^{Month} %^{Day}  
t) -%^{Remind days}) %^{Brief Description}%?" "~/pim/gtd/dates.org" "Birthdays")
     )
   )

I get this in dates.org when I press C-c C-c:

* Birthdays
** %%(diary-remind '(diary-date 1 6 t) -14) Suzie's birthday.
** %%(diary-remind '(diary-date 11 5 t) -14) John's birthday.
** %%(diary-remind '(diary-date  12 12  t) -12) New birthday

Which would be okay except that, as noted above, org agenda doesn't seem
to pick up on these kinds of dates when they're in a heading.

Perhaps remember isn't the right tool for this? 

Any advice is appreciated.  Thanks in advance!

-- 
Desmond Rivet

Pain is weakness leaving the body.




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