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[Orgmode] Re: bug with respect to org-read-date-prefer-future


From: Carsten Dominik
Subject: [Orgmode] Re: bug with respect to org-read-date-prefer-future
Date: Sun, 17 Oct 2010 08:33:50 +0200

Hi,

On Oct 8, 2010, at 9:50 PM, Bernt Hansen wrote:

Eric S Fraga <address@hidden> writes:

On Fri, 08 Oct 2010 15:01:49 -0400, Bernt Hansen <address@hidden> wrote:

Eric S Fraga <address@hidden> writes:

Recently, but I cannot say for how long, I have found that dates
entered, for instance using "j" in the standard agenda view, no longer
choose a time/day in the future but seem to default to the current
year.  For instance, today, typing "j 2 feb RET" (with a real space
between 2 and feb) jumps me to 2010 February 2, not 2011.

[...]


Hi Eric,

This was recently changed in commit
03b178d (Do not prefer future when jumping to a date in the agenda, 2010-09-21)
by Carsten after an offline discussion with me.

The behaviour changed for the 'j' command in the agenda only but not for
other date prompts.

Ah, okay, so I am not totally losing it... ;-)

The justification for this was at the start of a new month you need to
enter the year to go back to a date a week or two ago in the agenda
which seemed inconvenient.

Carsten noticed that I had set org-read-date-prefer-future to nil in
http://doc.norang.ca/org-mode.html and questioned why that was
necessary. After a short discussion he decided to change the default
behaviour for the agenda j command only.

Please comment on whether this change is good or bad.  The docstring
should be more clear about this change if we decide to keep it.

Regards,
Bernt

Well, I must say that I prefer the old way as it is more likely (on a
simple probabilistic view considering the full twelve months of the
year) that I am going to want a future date if I refer to a month
before the current one.  I can understand your justification for
earlier in a month but I typically simply use, say, -7 or -10 then (as
I use +7 or +10 say for days in the future).  So, I guess my view is
that the change is more bad than good...  At the very least, I would
like this to be configurable, if that is at all possible?  If not, I
am sure I can adjust!

By the way, I guess I could see an argument for a date alone being for
the current month, whether future or past, much as time can be
considered already to be for the current day, whether future or past,
if the variable is configured as I have it (time), but even then we
should have a configurable variable?

Regardless, the docs definitely have to change!

Personally I'm okay with reverting this commit if it is problematic.
I'll leave the final decision on that up to Carsten.

There is now a new option, org-agenda-jump-prefer-future.
The default is to recycle the setting of org-read-date-prefer-future,
but you can set your own specific preference as well.

Cheers.

- Carsten




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