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Re: [O] would take more than an org-mode strip-down.

From: Russell Adams
Subject: Re: [O] would take more than an org-mode strip-down.
Date: Wed, 28 Sep 2011 10:33:07 -0500
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On Wed, Sep 28, 2011 at 10:47:31AM -0400, James Levine wrote:
> I?ll go on leap of faith that the email I?ve been provided actually 
> contributes to the same thread I emailed to earlier. Please everyone: thank 
> you for looking out. This is clearly a thoughtful and supportive community. 
> You can not deny, however, that even the design of this forum is but one 
> example of how the Emacs community maintains its exclusivity. Own up to it. 
> If there?s no problem, then don?t fix it. But for those who are following the 
> statements on comparing org-mode to commercial substitutes like Taskpaper and 
> see this as an outcome of people making less-informed choices, I hope I can 
> keep your attention. Once I know which way to point my eyes, I promise I will 
> fall in line. Please take a step back folks, there?s an implied objective 
> that I?m making which I?ll state more explicitly:
> In order for org-mode to be attractive as an alternative to popular self-help 
> like GTD, Covey and the market of task managers both digital and paper that 
> exist, this community would need to take all this extensive documentation and 
> package it. Do not confuse content with transparency. People don?t even read 
> this much before electing their President. Should open-source software not 
> concern itself with good bullet points? Does this imply that I?m not 
> appreciative of the work?  There?s an opportunity cost with finding the time 
> for even this thread, which I?m hoping we can agree should not be a barrier 
> of entry for those who are simply interested in trying org-mode. As it 
> stands, however, just trying org-mode takes lots of reading if just to 
> install correctly. That?s all I?m saying.

Or you can watch a single 30 minute video:


May be tooting my own horn, but I understand what you're saying. Org
isn't "prepackaged" nor does it come with documentation saying "here's
how you use me to accomplish X". Everyone tends to find their own
style of using the tools Org provides to manage information.

Good luck!

> Text is but one way that people learn. If you?re documenting sofware, it 
> leans towards rational, logical, and linear thinking. Some people require a 
> full-picture model first seeing things from many angles. Other?s prefer trial 
> and error, and others, still, enjoy hypotheticals. People can adopt different 
> strategies along the way. But to insist on only one method of learning and 
> sharing, while being concerned that you?re not meeting a larger audience is 
> tantamount to calling the rest of the class stupid, or simply a manner of 
> dishonesty with one?s own motivations.
> Maybe what would be helpful is some bridge instruction: ?Graduating from 
> Taskpaper: so you?re ready to try org-mode. What to expect:? I do find that 
> if I have an orientation point, even if it wasn?t the best decision in the 
> first place, I have a better reference as to the changes I would envision and 
> what the value of future options would be.
> cheers
> James
> On Sep 28, 2011, at 10:18 AM, Jambunathan K wrote:
> James
> > Greetings,
> >
> > As an expert end-user but outside the computer science field, I?ve
> > felt there to be a high cost of entry for working in org-mode.
> This is another perfectly practical way to address the problem that you
> are contending to with.
> https://lists.gnu.org/archive/html/emacs-orgmode/2011-04/msg00173.html
> Jambunathan K.

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