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Re: [O] mail integration, advice?


From: Neil Smithline
Subject: Re: [O] mail integration, advice?
Date: Sat, 28 Apr 2012 21:00:53 -0400
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On 4/26 12:28, Rasmus wrote:
> Arch updates wl often.  Latest package is three months old.
>
> https://www.archlinux.org/packages/community/any/wanderlust/

Rasmus,

I don't think that Arch is really updating WL. I took a look at most of the commits at http://bit.ly/JQkshB and think they are only bumping the Arch version number and packaging. I didn't see any changes to the elisp.

To the best of my knowledge, most if not all maintenance on WL ended several years ago. I decided to avoid WL because of this and the similar lack of maintenance on FLIM and APEL.

Neil Smithline
http://www.neilsmithline.com
Proud GNU Emacs user since 1986, v. 18.24.


On 4/26 12:28 , Rasmus wrote:
Matt Price <address@hidden> writes:

I'd like to take one more shot at returning to text-based email within
emacs, mostly because I want to be able to integrate mail easily into
my org-mode workflow.

It's worth it.

The last time I tried this I used wanderlust,
and I'd be willing to give it a try again but a couple of things have
discouraged me in the past:

I used wl but switched to Gnus.

- wl causes emacs to freeze up when it checks or sends mail, and can
take quite a long while to complete these operations

I know of no solution to this.  You could run a dedicated Gnus process
if it bothers you.

- wl seems to have gone quasi-dormant, with very little activity on
the mailing list and no recent releases; it also relies on two other
packages, FLIM and APEL, with similarly dormant mailing lists

Arch updates wl often.  Latest package is three months old.

https://www.archlinux.org/packages/community/any/wanderlust/

- allow me to continue using Thunderbird as a backup for e.g. images
and highly formatted mails -- thunderbird is currently set up w/ local
copies of IMAP folders for my current mail, plus local archives served
on by dovecot that can be accessed both by thunderbird and by e.g.
wanderlust.

Message-mode handles txt mails well.  There is some org extension for
html mails (although I don't like html mails).

IMAP should be fine.  You can run it local if you want.  I do
offlineimap + dovecot.

- fast search and easy-to-manage virtual folders of some kind -- I see
mu and notmuch are very strong on both these fronts

notmuch and mu4emacs are probably also easier to set up.

- easy, stable harvesting of email-based data through org-capture

Use bbdb3.

  (if possible, this should allow me to archive a message and still be
able to find it when I follow an org message link)

You can capture gnus mails through org-capture.  I don't know how robust
the links are.

- would be nice if configuration didn't require TONS of lisp code, a I
am a very slow coder and these kinds of configuration tasks can be
very daunting for me.

I have tons of list configuration for Gnus. . .  But half of it is for
weird stuff such as random signature, random `avatar', several SMTP etc.

- shouldn't slow down my workflow too much -- I should be able to very
quickly check my email then return to an org buffer to continue
writing.

I have F9 bring up the Gnus Group buffer.  G for update.  Elegant
auto-fetching of new mails from foreign imap is something I have not
solved yet.





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