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Re: [O] M-x fill-region equivalent for lists?
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John Hendy |
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Re: [O] M-x fill-region equivalent for lists? |
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Thu, 19 Sep 2013 10:48:10 -0500 |
On Thu, Sep 19, 2013 at 9:54 AM, Eric S Fraga <address@hidden> wrote:
> John Hendy <address@hidden> writes:
>
> [...]
>
>> Sort of. Screenshots attached:
>> - as-is.png is the text from my initial email just yanked into Emacs
>>
>> - uneven-start.png is the result of `M-x fill-paragraph` on that text
>>
>> - even-start.png is the result of `M-x fill-paragraph` on the text if
>> I make sure the start of every line is justified with two spaces, as
>> it would if I'd been writing that full line directly in an Org list
>> item and then deleted/shortened some of the lines.
>>
>> - default.org is me taking the original yanked text and arranging it
>> all on one line, then pressing space at the end of the line.
>>
>> So... if the start of the lines in an item aren't even, you get an
>> uneven fill,
>
> Yes, this is as expected, based on fill-paragraph's algorithm for what
> to fill and how to define the fill prefix.
>
>> and in both cases, the right ragged edge is more ragged
>> than Org would have done on it's own.
>
> Yes, this is true. Happens to me as well. The filling is different
> when using auto-fill and writing as compared with fill-paragraph
> afterwards. I have never used fill-region so cannot compare.
>
If I select/mark a paragraph, `M-x fill-region` produces paragraphs
that are identical to typing them in Org and letting the line run past
my setting for the fill-column width. So fill-region works identically
to Org; fill-paragraph does not.
>> I didn't know about this
>> function and have just always used fill-region (not sure why!), so
>> thanks for suggesting it, as it's definitely getting things close.
>
> One step at a time... ;-) Filling appears to be a somewhat stochastic
> process although I'm sure it isn't!
See attached before and after comparing regular paragraph behavior for
Org's default behavior if you fill past the fill-column setting, M-x
fill-region, and M-x fill-paragraph. Perhaps not the most exhaustive
test, but shows that for paragraphs, the behavior of all three is the
same. I did the same for lists, but I suppose we already knew from my
previous email that Org and fill-paragraph don't agree.
>
> Having said this, I have now moved completely to org-indent with
> visual-line-mode and I no longer need to fill anything, when in org mode
> as opposed to message mode like this email...
Hmm. I'll have to look into that!
John
>
> --
> : Eric S Fraga (0xFFFCF67D), Emacs 24.3.50.1, Org release_8.1.1-7-gaecdf5
>
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- [O] M-x fill-region equivalent for lists?, John Hendy, 2013/09/17
- Re: [O] M-x fill-region equivalent for lists?, John Hendy, 2013/09/18
- Re: [O] M-x fill-region equivalent for lists?, Nick Dokos, 2013/09/18
- [O] [OT] mail followup to (was Re: M-x fill-region equivalent for lists?), Eric S Fraga, 2013/09/19
- Re: [O] [OT] mail followup to (was Re: M-x fill-region equivalent for lists?), John Hendy, 2013/09/19
- Re: [O] [OT] mail followup to (was Re: M-x fill-region equivalent for lists?), Eric S Fraga, 2013/09/19
- Re: [O] [OT] mail followup to (was Re: M-x fill-region equivalent for lists?), John Hendy, 2013/09/19
- Re: [O] [OT] mail followup to (was Re: M-x fill-region equivalent for lists?), Sebastien Vauban, 2013/09/20
- Re: [O] [OT] mail followup to (was Re: M-x fill-region equivalent for lists?), Eric S Fraga, 2013/09/23