Re: [O] [RFC] Proposal for rebindings in Org 8.3

[Sebastien Vauban]

Bastien wrote:
> The purpose is to be polite with minor modes and to not use
> C-c [:punct:] keybindings, as recommended in the Elisp manual.
>
> This is related to the issues reported here:
> http://lists.gnu.org/archive/html/emacs-orgmode/2014-01/msg00866.html
> http://article.gmane.org/gmane.emacs.orgmode/82010
>
> Here is a table to summarise the proposal:
>
> | Key   | Command                           | Proposal         | Status |
> |-------+-----------------------------------+------------------+--------|
> | C-c # | Checkboxes                        | C-c x            | Free   |
> | C-c ~ | Cooperation                       | C-c C-~          | Free   |
> | C-c , | Priorities                        | C-c C-,          | Free   |
> | C-c ? | Editing and debugging formulas    | C-c C-?          | Free   |
> | C-c ! | Creating timestamps               | C-c C-!          | Free   |
> | C-c . | Creating timestamps               | C-c C-.          | Free   |
> | C-c ` | Built-in table editor             | C-c C-`          | Free   |
> |-------+-----------------------------------+------------------+--------|
> | C-c ' | Editing and debugging formulas    | C-c " or C-c C-' | Free   |
> | C-c ^ | Structure editing, plain lists... | C-c C-^          | Taken  |
> | C-c @ | Structure editing                 | C-c <            | Taken  |
>
> The order is from the less problematic ones to the more problematic ones.
>
> A few comments on the last three:
>
> - " is not a punctuation character, I find C-c " instead of C-c ' good.
>
> - C-c C-^ is taken by org-up-element.  I'm in favor of using C-c C-u
>   (currently bound to `outline-up-heading') for `org-up-element'.
>   Nicolas suggested C-M-u but I find it convenient to have it when
>   editing Elisp code within Org buffers.
>
> - C-c < is bound to `org-date-from-calendar', which inserts the
>   current date (or the date from the calendar buffer) at point as
>   an active timestamp.
>
>   C-c > is bound to `org-goto-calendar' and goes to the calendar,
>   going to the date at point if any.  This is just a slightly more
>   contextual M-x calendar RET.
>
>   So the whole suggestion here is:
>   
>   - in Org-mode, remap calendar to org-goto-calendar and unbind it
>     from C-c >
>
>   - use C-c > for `org-date-from-calendar'
>
>   - use C-c < for selecting the whole subtree, which is consistent
>     with the use of `<' as a speedy command for doing the same.

You put the finger on one important note to me: that speed commands are
"the same" as their longer counterpart.  It should be good if all of
them could be obtainable by adding "C-c C-" in front of the speed
command.

With that focus in mind, I find `C-c x' not a good one (for checkboxes);
though, in that case, speed commands don't come into play. But I find it
too different from the `C-c C-' construct used for the others?

> Let me know how you feel about such move in general and each rebinding
> in particular.  We are not forced to solve them all at once.

Globally, it's fine!

Last remark about `C-c <' which I find not good:

- `<' in used for filtering categories in the agenda,

- semantically, what `C-c @' does is a `C-x h' limited to a subtree;
  maybe there could be something inspiring similar to `C-x h'?  Maybe
  `C-u C-x h'?

Best regards,
  Seb

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Sebastien Vauban