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Re: [O] [RFC] Org Minor Mode?
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Thorsten Jolitz |
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Re: [O] [RFC] Org Minor Mode? |
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Fri, 18 Apr 2014 17:54:33 +0200 |
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Bastien <address@hidden> writes:
> Thorsten Jolitz <address@hidden> writes:
>
>> That means that Org headlines are much more 'intelligent' than outline
>> headlines (they know about todos, priorities, tags, timestamps,
>> properties, planning, clocking, being archived etc.) and one could
>> have that kind of intelligent headlines in other modes too with a true
>> org-minor-mode.
>
> Joke aside, did you closely look at orgstruct-mode?
> I guess so if you started outorg.el.
Yes! Actually, omm.el is a merge of outshine.el and the orgstruct
section from org.el, i.e. the entire orgstruct code has been copied to
omm.el and therefore could be removed from org.el in case org-minor-mode
ever becomes reality (and omm.el part of org-mode).
I think org(struct)-style list and table editing in other text-modes is
a kind of special case for an org-minor-mode, though a very useful
one. The default case would be its (mode agnostic) use in programming
modes and with outcommented text. In that case outshine and
outorg/poporg offer some useful ideas and functionality too.
> My point is: I'd rather improve orgstruct-mode than rethink
> an org-minor-mode from scratch. But that's just me of course.
I think outorg and poporg are quite heavy competitors to
org(struct)-style list and table editing, since they offer the full
power of Org-mode, work in comment sections and docstrings (too), and
avoid possible mode conflicts by simply reverting the
`org-edit-special' idea => work in a programming mode and launch
temporary org-mode edit buffers for occasional text editing.
So for text/list/table editing I think there could be user options for
deciding between orgstruct and/or outorg&poporg, so that none of the
existing efforts is lost. The real value and innovation of a true
org-minor-mode would be to introduce Org's intelligent headlines and all
the related functionality into the world of outcommented text in
programming modes.
--
cheers,
Thorsten
- Re: [O] [RFC] Org Minor Mode?, (continued)
Re: [O] [RFC] Org Minor Mode?, Thorsten Jolitz, 2014/04/13
- Re: [O] [RFC] Org Minor Mode?, Bastien, 2014/04/18
- Re: [O] [RFC] Org Minor Mode?,
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- Re: [O] [RFC] Org Minor Mode?, Bastien, 2014/04/19
- Re: [O] [RFC] Org Minor Mode?, Thorsten Jolitz, 2014/04/19
- Re: [O] [RFC] Org Minor Mode?, Bastien, 2014/04/19
- Re: [O] [RFC] Org Minor Mode?, Ilya Shlyakhter, 2014/04/24
- Re: [O] [RFC] Org Minor Mode?, Thorsten Jolitz, 2014/04/25
- Re: [O] [RFC] Org Minor Mode?, Bastien, 2014/04/29
- Re: [O] [RFC] Org Minor Mode?, Ilya Shlyakhter, 2014/04/29
Re: [O] [RFC] Org Minor Mode?, Ilya Shlyakhter, 2014/04/24