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Re: [O] proposal to have ignoreheading tags/properties


From: Mark Edgington
Subject: Re: [O] proposal to have ignoreheading tags/properties
Date: Fri, 13 Jun 2014 04:07:42 +0000 (UTC)
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Eric Abrahamsen <eric <at> ericabrahamsen.net> writes:
> 
> It looks like a groundswell for remove-andor-promote tags for headlines,
> but for the sake of argument let me propose the use of blocks. It seems
> to me that something like a "generic block" (a block that does nothing
> but delete its begin/end delimiters on export) fits the use-case better:
> 

Consider the following:

* Test
#+begin_block abc
* test2
#+begin_block def
* test3
** test4 
#+end_block
** test5
#+end_block


Some remarks on this, and on blocks vs. headlines:

- For me, the above example ends up being indented very poorly with
org-indent-mode active.  Also folding the nested headlines swallows up the
end-block lines.

- I find that it's difficult to identify what belongs to what block, and the
need to have both start and end lines to delineate the blocks is a bit more
noisy and can be a pain to work with (what if I want to remove the "abc
frame" -- I will need not only to delete the begin line, but also to locate
where the corresponding end line is, and delete it as well).

- creating a block (manually, at least) requires more effort than creating a
headline (= more RSI).

- It also may be convenient at times to be able to remove the :promote:,
etc. tags in order to have the exporter include the grouping as part of the
exported document's structure.

- Likewise, what if I want to add a :noexport: tag so that all of the
content is ignored -- easy with headlines, more work to do the same thing
with a block.





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