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[O] Org Agenda and recurring icalendar events


From: cschr
Subject: [O] Org Agenda and recurring icalendar events
Date: Fri, 30 Sep 2016 10:54:44 +0200

Hello together

 

Im now running Emacs 25.1 with Org 8.3.5 on Windows.   I love Emacs and Orgmode and I want to use it instead of Microsoft Office.   But in order to replace MS-Outlook calendar by Org Agenda, and in order to sync Org Agenda with my Android phone, I would need all icalendar functionality, which is used by MS-Outlook and by Android, implemented in Orgmode. Most urgently missing are recurrence features like RRULE, EXDATE, DTSTART, DTEND, etc, and import and export of those from and to icalendar.   The current implementation is only rudimentary.

 

Emacs diary is not suitable - import and export from and to icalendar are also not working properly for most recurring events, and of course it misses the Orgmode features.

 

My idea would be to introduce recurring icalendar elements like RRULE, EXDATE, DTSTART and DTEND as Org Properties, which would make importing and exporting them straightforward, I guess. Main work would be to make these dates show up in the Org Agenda properly.

 

Wonderful would be to have this functionality as an official part of orgmode and maintained

 

A similar work was started in 2013 already: http://thread.gmane.org/gmane.emacs.orgmode/74391

 

But that’s all I was able to find on the web about this subject – it seems no work is going on here - or does anybody know there is?

 

Im wondering if this idea is of interest to anybody else – to me this is a real killer feature for using Org Agenda.

 

I had sent the below emails via bug-gnu-emacs, but there was no response – was it the wrong place to send to ?

 

I don’t have Emacs development knowledge.  Is there any expert here who could tell me if this is possible at all, whether this could become part of official orgmode and how, and what could the effort be – is this a few weeks, or a few months, or much more work ?

 

Thank you so much

 

Kind regards

Chris

 

 

 

 

From: cschr [mailto:address@hidden
Sent: 12 August 2016 09:34
To: address@hidden
Subject: RE: Subject: 25.0.94; Proposal to make orgmode agenda really useful

 

RRULE might better be an orgmode PROPERTY too, like proposed for Recurrence End Date and Exceptions in http://thread.gmane.org/gmane.emacs.orgmode/74391

 

In fact, its several properties, but not all are needed for Android Sync. I only need: RRULE_FREQ, RRULE_INTERVAL, RRULE_BYDAY, RRULE_COUNT, RRULE_UNTIL.

Also, EXDATE is needed which is not part of RRULE but part of VEVENT, and TRIGGER which is part of VALARM

 

 

From: cschr [mailto:address@hidden]
Sent: 10 August 2016 20:27
To:
address@hidden
Subject: Subject: 25.0.94; Proposal to make orgmode agenda really useful

 

I love emacs - its incredibly powerful and helpful - its almost all i

ever dreamt of.

 

One thing i miss urgently: make org agenda files fully sync with my

icalendar files, including recurrance with end dates, and including alarms.

RRule Exceptions would also be helpfull.

 

Here are my ideas, and I would be curious to hear your plans:

 

1. Would it be an idea to implement a DIARY_RRULE function which can be used

in date sexpr in org agenda (and maybe also the diary) and which accepts

an icalendar RRULE string as parameter ?   This could make icalendar

export and import very easy (just copy the string), and implementation

in elisp shouldnt be too hard (but thats something I can only guess -

you know it better).

 

2. exceptions and end dates could also be implemented as org properties,

as already proposed by http://thread.gmane.org/gmane.emacs.orgmode/74391

 

3. At the moment i am stuck because my icalendar file can only be

imported into the diary: import into org files is restricted to single events

(and maybe very simple recurring events?). And the diary import uses diary-date

a lot which cannot be exported, and diary export does not create VALARms,

and the ORG features are not available for the diary.

 

Thanks a lot for your great work !!!

Kind regards – Christoph Schröder, Cham, Switzerland

 

 


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