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Re: [O] Remove Org from Emacs repository?


From: Scott Randby
Subject: Re: [O] Remove Org from Emacs repository?
Date: Mon, 19 Dec 2016 13:09:14 -0500
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+1 for Keeping Org in Emacs.

Scott Randby

On 12/18/2016 08:20 AM, Carsten Dominik wrote:
> Dear all,
> 
> I'd hate to see Org removed from Emacs.  It took a lot of work to get it
> in, and I believe that the vast majority of Emacs users does not install
> packages.  For a newbie to get to Emacs and to be able to open a .org
> file is a big plus.  So my vote goes toward keeping it in.
> 
> Carsten
> 
> On Sun, Dec 18, 2016 at 10:22 AM, <address@hidden
> <mailto:address@hidden>> wrote:
> 
>     2 cents from me...
> 
>     Besides I continuously see many users praising Emacs just for Org
>     presence (they even may be completely non-technical users), I'm
>     personally think Org may be removed from Emacs distribution because:
> 
>     1) all Reuben's argument seems sane;
>     2) there are situations when someone wants particular version of Org,
>        and it may be not tne one bundled with Emacs. In this case someone
>        should perform extra steps to ensure things are going the right way.
>        When Org will be available only from ELPA, it will be SPOT for
>     such cases.
> 
>     Reuben Thomas <address@hidden <mailto:address@hidden>> writes:
> 
>     > Now that Emacs has had package.el for some years, and Org is installable
>     > directly from GNU ELPA, would it be a good idea to remove Org from 
> Emacs's
>     > source repository?
>     >
>     > The current situation is left over from before Emacs had package.el, 
> and I
>     > see no compelling reason to keep it. Org is too big and distinct to be
>     > swallowed by Emacs; it doesn't make much sense to keep its current 
> half-in,
>     > half-out state; so logically it seems sensible to take it out.
>     >
>     > I am asking this question from an Org point of view; I will ask the 
> Emacs
>     > maintainers separately for their perspective.
>     >
>     > I think it would benefit Emacs too, as there would be less code to 
> maintain
>     > (even though Org is quasi-external at present, it still has to build
>     > successfully as part of an Emacs build), and the Emacs distribution 
> would
>     > be slimmer for non-Org users.
>     >
>     > Of course, Emacs "distributions" would still be able to include Org
>     > out-of-the box if they wished.
>     >
>     > --
>     > http://rrt.sc3d.org
> 
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