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Re: [O] [POLL] Should Org tempo be enabled by default? (expand templates
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Bastien |
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Re: [O] [POLL] Should Org tempo be enabled by default? (expand templates thru e.g. "<s[TAB]") |
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Sun, 29 Apr 2018 15:22:54 +0200 |
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Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/26.1 (gnu/linux) |
Hi Nicolas,
Nicolas Goaziou <address@hidden> writes:
> Bastien <address@hidden> writes:
>
>> Again, I may be wrong in thinking disabling this will cause trouble to
>> many users. Let's just take a moment to see what users think.
>
> It will case trouble during the time necessary to read ORG-NEWS
> incompatible changes section or ask the mailing list, and then adding
> (require 'org-tempo) to their configuration file.
I wish I'd be as optimistic as you are and assume every user reads
ORG-NEWS! I seriously doubt a majority of users do. Those installing
Org from ELPA cannot possibly know where to find ORG-NEWS, Org gives
no indication where it lives: IOW, it's not even because users are
lazy or what.
> It seems nonsensical to let Org handle expansion templates. Dedicated
> packages do it way better than what we provide, and the task is really
> out of our scope.
I can't remember anybody complaining Org's expansion mechanism.
> Worse, we would provide two different ways to expand blocks /by
> default/.
I see it differently. You and Rasmus (and those participating to the
discussion) cleanly separated two functionalities: one is to *insert*
templates the other one is to *expand* them.
M-x org-insert-structure-template RET is good for discovery as it lets
users see what templates are availables and <[KEY][TAB] is good for
fast inline expansion.
Both complete each other IMO, and both deserve to be in Org's core.
But again, I might be wrong, I just don't want this to be a discussion
between us two :)
--
Bastien
- [O] [POLL] Should Org tempo be enabled by default? (expand templates thru e.g. "<s[TAB]"), Bastien, 2018/04/29
- Re: [O] [POLL] Should Org tempo be enabled by default? (expand templates thru e.g. "<s[TAB]"), Nicolas Goaziou, 2018/04/29
- Re: [O] [POLL] Should Org tempo be enabled by default? (expand templates thru e.g. "<s[TAB]"), Bastien, 2018/04/29
- Re: [O] [POLL] Should Org tempo be enabled by default? (expand templates thru e.g. "<s[TAB]"), Nicolas Goaziou, 2018/04/29
- Re: [O] [POLL] Should Org tempo be enabled by default? (expand templates thru e.g. "<s[TAB]"),
Bastien <=
- Re: [O] [POLL] Should Org tempo be enabled by default? (expand templates thru e.g. "<s[TAB]"), Thomas S. Dye, 2018/04/29
- Re: [O] [POLL] Should Org tempo be enabled by default? (expand templates thru e.g. "<s[TAB]"), Bastien, 2018/04/29
- Re: [O] [POLL] Should Org tempo be enabled by default? (expand templates thru e.g. "<s[TAB]"), Tim Cross, 2018/04/29
- Re: [O] [POLL] Should Org tempo be enabled by default? (expand templates thru e.g. "<s[TAB]"), Bastien, 2018/04/29
- Re: [O] [POLL] Should Org tempo be enabled by default? (expand templates thru e.g. "<s[TAB]"), Tim Cross, 2018/04/29
- Re: [O] [POLL] Should Org tempo be enabled by default? (expand templates thru e.g. "<s[TAB]"), Bastien, 2018/04/29
- Re: [O] [POLL] Should Org tempo be enabled by default? (expand templates thru e.g. "<s[TAB]"), Nicolas Goaziou, 2018/04/30
- Re: [O] [POLL] Should Org tempo be enabled by default? (expand templates thru e.g. "<s[TAB]"), Kevin Foley, 2018/04/30
- Re: [O] [POLL] Should Org tempo be enabled by default? (expand templates thru e.g. "<s[TAB]"), Kevin Foley, 2018/04/30
- Re: [O] [POLL] Should Org tempo be enabled by default? (expand templates thru e.g. "<s[TAB]"), Eric S Fraga, 2018/04/30