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Re: dired doesn't work properly with a multibyte locale
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Miles Bader |
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Re: dired doesn't work properly with a multibyte locale |
Date: |
03 Feb 2003 10:24:06 +0900 |
Kenichi Handa <address@hidden> writes:
> > I just checked, 4.1 has already all support. Sorry for confusion.
>
> I see. But, anyway, "ls (coreutils) 4.5.4" has a bug. If
> this version of "ls" is already widely spread, shouldn't
> Emacs pay special attention to such a buggy "ls"?
Is it worth the trouble? As far as I know the problem only occurs with
newlines in filenames, which is an extremely rare thing; as long as it
gets fixed in the next version, that seems good enough to me...
> Dave Love <address@hidden> writes:
> > It seems more useful to count in characters (assuming they're
> > decodable), but the problem remains that it's now broken on current
> > systems.
Why is it more useful to count in characters?
Of course that makes things a bit simpler for emacs, but counting in
bytes has the advantage that a tool doesn't have to be support the
coding system ls does in order to grab the filenames. Since it seems
easier for a `smart' (coding-system aware) tool like emacs to act
`dumb', than for a dumb tool to act smart, that suggest to me that it's
better to use the dumb method (byte counts).
Of course I suppose you could just argue that --dired is for emacs'
use, and should just do whatever it the most convenient for emacs.
[actually, does ls itself even know the actual character counts, or is
it just regurgitating binary chunks that it doesn't interpret?]
> > If there are incompatible versions of ls, I think you have
> > to check `ls --version' to decide what to do.
>
> I don't know the relation of "ls (coreutils)" and "ls
> (fileutils)". Does anyone know how to detect a buggy "ls"?
coreutils is just a merge of fileutils + shutils + ...
The NEWS file for coreutils says:
[4.5.1]
...
This package is the union of the following:
textutils-2.1, fileutils-4.1.11, sh-utils-2.0.15.
-Miles
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- Re: dired doesn't work properly with a multibyte locale, Kenichi Handa, 2003/02/02
- Re: dired doesn't work properly with a multibyte locale,
Miles Bader <=
- Re: dired doesn't work properly with a multibyte locale, Kenichi Handa, 2003/02/02
- Re: dired doesn't work properly with a multibyte locale, Miles Bader, 2003/02/02
- Re: dired doesn't work properly with a multibyte locale, Kenichi Handa, 2003/02/03
- Re: dired doesn't work properly with a multibyte locale, Miles Bader, 2003/02/03
- Re: dired doesn't work properly with a multibyte locale, Kenichi Handa, 2003/02/03
- Re: dired doesn't work properly with a multibyte locale, Miles Bader, 2003/02/03
- Re: dired doesn't work properly with a multibyte locale, Jim Meyering, 2003/02/03
- Re: dired doesn't work properly with a multibyte locale, Andreas Schwab, 2003/02/03
- Re: dired doesn't work properly with a multibyte locale, Kenichi Handa, 2003/02/03
- Re: dired doesn't work properly with a multibyte locale, Dave Love, 2003/02/13