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Re: bad change to tooltip.el


From: Dave Love
Subject: Re: bad change to tooltip.el
Date: Fri, 19 Nov 2004 17:17:43 +0000
User-agent: Gnus/5.11 (Gnus v5.11) Emacs/21.2 (gnu/linux)

Stefan Monnier <address@hidden> writes:

> Maybe I was particularly unlucky  in my setup (NFS and stuff), but last time
> I tried the difference was more than a factor of 2.

I think timing was actually with things off NFS, but for the second
invocation, assuming stuff would normally be cached.

> Sure.  But it's the author's responsibility to watch for those problems and
> he most likely compiles from within his running Emacs anyway, so the
> difference doesn't even appear in the picture.

That's the problem.  I normally make sure I don't do that, so I do see
problems with undefined functions and the like.

>> I don't think it's a compiler problem if required files mask missing
>> functions.
>
> I think it is.  Using `fboundp' to see if a function will be available when
> the code will be run is OK for a quick-and-dirty solution, but it's
> otherwise just naive.

I'm not sure I understand that, but the usual problem with not
compiling in a clean Emacs is that you have something loaded already
(e.g. cl-macs) which masks the fact that the Lisp in question needs a
require, autoload, or whatever.  That's what I found quite a lot in
Gnus stuff when it was used without most of Gnus loaded.




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