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Re: default value 'w3 of mm-text-html-renderer


From: Roland Winkler
Subject: Re: default value 'w3 of mm-text-html-renderer
Date: Sat, 22 Jan 2005 12:55:02 +0100

On Fri Jan 21 2005 Richard Stallman wrote:
>     The web page http://savannah.gnu.org/projects/w3/ says:
> 
>     This project is part of the GNU Project.
> 
>     Emacs/W3 is a full-featured web browser, written entirely in Emacs-Lisp.
> 
> Thanks for sending it.  Unfortunately this says nothing about where to
> find any version of W3 that is newer than the one on Savannah.
> 
> It appears that someone here had a newer version.
> Does anyone know who that was?

Maybe there is a misunderstanding here.

To the best of my knowledge, the version of w3 on Savannah is the
newest version of w3 that exists. (Please correct me anybody if I am
wrong.)

I started this thread because I had w3, 
version "WWW 4.0pre.46 1999/10/01 20:22:11"
installed in site-lisp and this old version of w3 doesn't work with
recent GNU CVS Emacs due to various reasons.

The main author of w3 is William M. Perry. On his web page
http://www.cs.indiana.edu/elisp/w3/docs.html there is a link
`Download Emacs/W3' which gives the above old version of w3.

There is also the web page http://www.gnu.org/software/w3/ which
says

   Emacs/W3 as it currently stands is a monolithic web browser. And
   rapidly becoming an outdated one at that. This is a proposal to
   do away with the old design and create several components that
   will be useful by themselves, and can also be plugged together to
   make a full-featured web browser.

Here, the phrase "Emacs/W3 as it currently stands" is a link to
William Perry's web page mentioned above -- which suggests that the
old version "WWW 4.0pre.46 1999/10/01 20:22:11" is really the
current status of w3.

The project adminstrator for the newer version of w3 on Savannah is
also William Perry. So from my perspective, the point is that his
page http://www.cs.indiana.edu/elisp/w3/docs.html and also
http://www.gnu.org/software/w3/ do not reflect the present status of
w3 as available on Savannah. And I assume that w3 on Savannah can be
used with CVS emacs, though up to now it gives me some new error
messages with coding systems I do not understand either.

(I'd like to repeat my request: Is there anybody reading this who is
successfully using whatever version of w3 with CVS Emacs?)

The w3 files on Savannah are a bit confusing because some of them
(e.g., w3.el) say

  ;;; This file is part of GNU Emacs.

But maybe this is a different issue.

Roland




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