RE: [SPAM] [fsf-community-team] What happened between GNU and GNOME ?

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As a Free Software hippy I totally agree, but as a blogger I don't. Most
blog cms's make is a pain in the butt to make multiple feeds, and unless
it was doing so based on tags no blogger ever would.  

I don't think censoring or alienating users because of there activities
outside of free software is appropriate. If I was a GNOME contributor
and got mad about something I saw on the news should I not post it to my
own blog because not everyone maybe a anarcho-socialist?  

Its been said that it takes a village to raise a child. It takes a
community to create good Free Software.

Justin "threethirty" O'Brien
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> -------- Original Message --------
> Subject: RE: [SPAM] [fsf-community-team] What happened between GNU and
> GNOME ?
> From: Simon Bridge <address@hidden>
> Date: Mon, December 14, 2009 11:01 pm
> To: FSF Community Team <address@hidden>
> 
> 
> On Mon, 2009-12-14 at 17:16 -0700, address@hidden wrote:
> > I think this is an issue but not a solvable one.  Planet is just
> > software that pulls in rss feeds and the only the gnome community is
> > able to join.  so if you contribute to gnome and also do non-free
> > software those things are going to mix, but that is the community.
> > 
> > So you either have to edit the whole planet which will be seen as
> > limiting speech or as a community you can post more often so it drowns
> > out the non-free posts.
> 
> It is not unheard of to moderate lists for inappropriate content.
> However, the suggestion to break gnome from gnu is an overreaction to
> the actual statement:
> 
> > > GNOME
> > > should not provide proprietary software developers with a platform to
> > > present non-free software as a good or legitimate thing.
> 
> This should be true for any list but must be particularly the case for a free 
> software list.
> The ethical question here is important and should be brought up. If anyone 
> should do so then RMS is the right man for the job.
> It is logical that the alternative prospect should also be raised: that GNOME 
> is no longer a GNU project.
> If it is not then of course gnome should split from gnu... or get with the 
> program.
> However, I suspect it is more pique than logic.
> 
> > > Perhaps the statement of Planet GNOME's philosophy should be
> > > interpreted differently.  It should not invite people to talk about
> > > their proprietary software projects just because they are also GNOME
> > > contributors.
> 
> What is wrong with asking gnome contributors to please refrain from posting 
> to a gnome contributor list material which is counter to gnomes core values?
> The main trouble is that people are not actually "posting to" the list as 
> Stallman appears to believe.
> However, they can still keep separate feeds for free and non-free software 
> work or choose not to make their feed available.
> 
> Of course, they can also choose to make vmware free software :)
> 
> If our free software is so useful that proprietary companies want to get on 
> board, then it behooves us to use these programs to pressure proprietary 
> companies to change their ways does it not?