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Re: [OT] Re: [Gnu-arch-users] Re: Arch hooks
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Stephen J. Turnbull |
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Re: [OT] Re: [Gnu-arch-users] Re: Arch hooks |
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Sat, 04 Oct 2003 15:47:51 +0900 |
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>>>>> "Andrew" == Andrew Suffield <address@hidden> writes:
>> Sure. But how am I supposed to know it's _safe_? Maybe
>> instead of diverting to /bin/true I should divert to
>> /bin/false?
Andrew> Hell, I don't really know it's "safe" either. Try it and
Andrew> see? >:)
Andrew> All it does is supposed to be to modify the apache config
Andrew> files, so splicing it out should just mean you'll have to
Andrew> fix your config files by hand.
The problem is that unless you're the Debian maintainer, you can't know
if when that is bypassed you will end up with a later package wedged
because it depends on Apache being _correctly_ reconfigured.
Andrew> This sounds like a case where the right answer is "ask the
Andrew> mailing list and/or maintainers".
It would have taken more time to _find the mailing list address_ than
I spent hacking the makefile.
That's what I don't like about the trend to "blackbox config tools":
it encourages people like me to hack the parts we understand. That's
OK if it's just individuals, but I suspect this is an important reason
why we Nipponjin suffer so much. As a cultural matter, Japanese would
rather have a local hack private to a small circle of initiates than
spend effort on creating a (compatible) public good.
Andrew> It has been a goal that nobody should be forced to use
Andrew> hardware detection, so they aren't installed
Andrew> automatically.
So what you're saying is that Debian's goals are completely consonant
with giving Branden's company a big advantage over vanilla Debian in
ease of use? (I know what your response will be, and it's completely
adequate, of course. Just sit there and feel the sting for a while,
and see if that grows into a need to do something about this. ;-)
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- Re: [Gnu-arch-users] Re: Arch hooks, (continued)
- Re: [Gnu-arch-users] Re: Arch hooks, Andrew Suffield, 2003/10/02
- Re: [Gnu-arch-users] Re: Arch hooks, Stephen J. Turnbull, 2003/10/02
- Re: [Gnu-arch-users] Re: Arch hooks, Andrew Suffield, 2003/10/02
- Re: [Gnu-arch-users] Re: Arch hooks, Stephen J. Turnbull, 2003/10/02
- Re: [Gnu-arch-users] Re: Arch hooks, Tom Lord, 2003/10/02
- [OT] Re: [Gnu-arch-users] Re: Arch hooks, Andrew Suffield, 2003/10/02
- Re: [OT] Re: [Gnu-arch-users] Re: Arch hooks, Stephen J. Turnbull, 2003/10/02
- Re: [OT] Re: [Gnu-arch-users] Re: Arch hooks, Andrew Suffield, 2003/10/03
- Re: [OT] Re: [Gnu-arch-users] Re: Arch hooks, Stephen J. Turnbull, 2003/10/03
- Re: [OT] Re: [Gnu-arch-users] Re: Arch hooks, Andrew Suffield, 2003/10/03
- Re: [OT] Re: [Gnu-arch-users] Re: Arch hooks,
Stephen J. Turnbull <=
- Re: [OT] Re: [Gnu-arch-users] Re: Arch hooks, Andrew Suffield, 2003/10/04
- Re: [OT] Re: [Gnu-arch-users] Re: Arch hooks, Stephen J. Turnbull, 2003/10/05
- Re: [OT] Re: [Gnu-arch-users] Re: Arch hooks, Andrew Suffield, 2003/10/05
- Re: [OT] Re: [Gnu-arch-users] Re: Arch hooks, Stephen J. Turnbull, 2003/10/07
- Re: [OT] Re: [Gnu-arch-users] Re: Arch hooks, Andrew Suffield, 2003/10/07
- Re: [OT] Re: [Gnu-arch-users] Re: Arch hooks, Stephen J. Turnbull, 2003/10/08
- Re: [OT] Re: [Gnu-arch-users] Re: Arch hooks, Andrew Suffield, 2003/10/08
- Re: [OT] Re: [Gnu-arch-users] Re: Arch hooks, Stephen J. Turnbull, 2003/10/09
Re: [Gnu-arch-users] Arch hooks, Tobias C. Rittweiler, 2003/10/02