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Re: [Gnu-arch-users] Re: taglines vs explicit
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Tom Lord |
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Re: [Gnu-arch-users] Re: taglines vs explicit |
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Mon, 6 Oct 2003 10:55:31 -0700 (PDT) |
> From: Davide Libenzi <address@hidden>
> My question was slightly different though. It was: Do you think, according
> to what you read about lkml usage of BK, that you can map Arch operations
> that will guarantee the same/greater level of ease in accomplishing those
> tasks?
Yes.
But three things:
a) I think it would be a mistake to define the problem as "Slip arch
in without perturbing Linus' workflow." There is no opportunity
to _improve_ the situation without disturbing it.
b) There is a much bigger fish to fry than Linus: designing
engineering processes for free software generally. Linus is just
a guy[1]. It is both rude and dangerous to try to turn him from
"guy" into "pivot point for the engineering processes of the free
software world". I don't at all mean that he is immune to
criticism for his quasi-contractual deal with BitMover -- only that
the proper community response to that blunder of his is not to
put him in the role of touchstone for revision control tools.
If Linus is hopelessly broken, the right answer is to route around
him.
c) And anyway, it is _absurd_ to make him the touchstone of revision
control. He isn't playing that game with anyone other than Larry.
His public statements on what's needed in such tools are scant and
vague. When people start saying on this list "Yes, but Linus
{wants,needs,won't,must have,....}" mostly what I hear is the
author of those comments saying "I believe too much of what I read
on /."
-t
[1] Linus is just a guy
A helpful, generous, smart, effective guy who has given a lot to
all of us. Personally, I sometimes like to take the slightly
exaggerated view that "Eh... a kernel ... big whup. Any of 10,000
people could have done that," and regard Linus' most important
contribution as his public demonstrations of self-respect and
self-protection -- that he insists on being a family guy having
fun hacking some software he likes and makes that a greater
priority than _all_ of the chimera constructed by the industry
captains and their self-constructed-puppet-media lackeys.
He shouldn't be regarded as hero or keystone -- but as one of many
decent examples of personal conduct for every other professional
in our industry.
(This is not, of course, an endorsement of his political views on
matters such as licensing practices.)
- Re: [Gnu-arch-users] Re: taglines vs explicit, (continued)
- Re: [Gnu-arch-users] Re: taglines vs explicit, Tom Lord, 2003/10/05
- Re: [Gnu-arch-users] Re: taglines vs explicit, Davide Libenzi, 2003/10/05
- Re: [Gnu-arch-users] Re: taglines vs explicit, Tom Lord, 2003/10/05
- Re: [Gnu-arch-users] Re: taglines vs explicit, Davide Libenzi, 2003/10/06
- Re: [Gnu-arch-users] Re: taglines vs explicit, Tom Lord, 2003/10/06
- Re: [Gnu-arch-users] Re: taglines vs explicit, Davide Libenzi, 2003/10/06
- Re: [Gnu-arch-users] Re: taglines vs explicit,
Tom Lord <=
- Re: [Gnu-arch-users] Re: taglines vs explicit, Davide Libenzi, 2003/10/06
- Re: [Gnu-arch-users] Re: taglines vs explicit, Tom Lord, 2003/10/06
- Re: [Gnu-arch-users] Re: taglines vs explicit, Stephen J. Turnbull, 2003/10/07
- [Gnu-arch-users] Re: taglines vs explicit, Miles Bader, 2003/10/07
- [Gnu-arch-users] Re: taglines vs explicit, Stephen J. Turnbull, 2003/10/07
- [Gnu-arch-users] Re: taglines vs explicit, Miles Bader, 2003/10/08
- [Gnu-arch-users] Re: taglines vs explicit, Stephen J. Turnbull, 2003/10/09
- [Gnu-arch-users] Linus, Tom Lord, 2003/10/09
- Re: [Gnu-arch-users] Linus, Davide Libenzi, 2003/10/09
- [Gnu-arch-users] Re: Linus, Miles Bader, 2003/10/09