Re: [GNU-linux-libre] Re: Freedom issues with non-free firmware in external files

[Daniel Olivera]

Yavor Doganov escribió:
> Daniel Olivera wrote:
>> Our job may be clear about this "line".
>> Packages with 4 freedoms may be included, work or not, experimental
>> or not.
> 
> So, if someone writes a fancy script whose whole purpose is to
> download many popular non-free packages (Opera, Adobe's PDF reader,
> etc.) and install them, and he releases it under a free license such
> as GPL, it would be acceptable for inclusion in Ututo?
> 

No.
Script is ok better if is gpl
But software to install (like linking dependencies to compile any
software) is non-free.

> Note that this is not a hypothetical example.  Debian's "contrib"
> section of the archive is full of such wrappers -- free packages which
> exist to do one job only -- download and install non-free packages.
> 

The problem with debian contrib is debian non-free.
Debian mark like contrib, and this is ok, but also distribute from
debian server non-free to make functional contrib software

> There is no significant difference between them and the issue we're
> discussing.  (Note that this case is drastically different from being
> able to compile and run non-free software with GNU libc and other free
> libraries -- Alexandre Oliva explained that very well.)
> 

I don't have any reason to reject GPL software with 4 freedoms.
If to run need non-free software is a functional aspect not freedom
conflict.
We provide only free sofwtare and this is a UTUTO "line" to determine
clearly which software may be include in our repository.

> I firmly believe that distros should watch out for such problems and
> take the necessary steps to avoid them.
> 

UTUTO read all licenses, even old packages to detect changes.
Like Xfree for version 4.4 in past.
Many packages are monitored by us from source code.


Regards

happy hacking!!
-- 
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