Re: HTML vs XHTML

[David Paleino]

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Victor Engmark ha scritto:
> On 2/25/07, *David Paleino* <address@hidden
> <mailto:address@hidden>> wrote:
>     ...
> 
> Your fix is in the attached file - You apply TD formatting to the TD
> elements, instead of the (IMO rather silly) way of HTML, which is to set
> it at the table level.

Thanks for that.
Yes, it's better also IMO to include all the styled into an external
CSS, without repeating the same styles for all TDs and tables.
I edited the page that way because it was a "transitional" (as Davi
stated) state.
I would've edited the CSS later, cleaning up the code. :-)

>     <img src="bla.png width="90" height="120" align="left" alt="image"
>     style="border:0;position:relative;left:0;top:0" />
> 
> Unless you need to be able to save the web site as a single file with
> styles, you'd normally move those away from the <img> element, and into
> a separate style sheet file, to save space and make your design much
> more flexible. That also includes @align.

Sure, see my agreement about cleaning up the code :-)

> To date, I've never
> encountered an old-style HTML layout which I couldn't duplicate with
> standard compliant, accessible (WCAG level AA), and smaller XHTML + CSS.
> It may be that the pages I've worked with were exceedingly bad, or that
> the W3C people are smart enough to make the newer standards better than
> the old ones...

I think the second choice. :-P
It may also be that I'm not as good as you in using CSS :-D

>     P.S.: in my opinion, it would be better using DIVs instead of TABLEs.
>     But I think it's a lot of work 
> 
>  
> That depends on the contents of the table. If it's tabular data, use
> <table>. If the table is just there to keep things aligned, then use
> <div>. Otherwise, you'll end up with "divitis", coined in Jeffrey
> Zeldman's Designing with web standards.

Well, maybe I'm already affected by that divitis :-D

> Just my 2 cents.
> 
> PS: Where can I find the actual files to edit the pages? I'm getting an
> itch to have a look at this myself.

You can find everything into ./Layer-0__Site_entry_point/templates/

> -- 
> Victor Engmark
> Quid quid latine dictum sit, altum viditar - What is said in Latin,
> sounds profound

Again, it's "viditur". :-D

Cheers,
David

P.S.: if we have to move to XHTML, I suggest to stop working over other
tasks. Or, better, stop working on templates. We can change anything BUT
templates. For example, while I was working on the first step of
conversion, Davi had committed a version, and I had to _manually_ merge
the differences...

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