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Re: access to review audits (was Re: [Gnumed-devel] encounter edit befor
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Karsten Hilbert |
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Re: access to review audits (was Re: [Gnumed-devel] encounter edit before final save) |
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Wed, 13 Aug 2008 10:53:22 +0200 |
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On Tue, Aug 12, 2008 at 12:59:33PM -0700, James Busser wrote:
> Not long ago, I was temporarily very unhappy with the trainee doctors
> managing a patient under my care, on account for having begun a patient
> on antibiotics for what they *insisted* was Staph aureus growing in the
> patient's blood. Together we re-examined the patient's hospital record
> and the computer advised us that the blood cultures were "no growth".
> Only after pursuing the lab were we able to find out that the lab *did*
> originally post a result saying that the blood cultures were growing
> Staph aureus (which the student saw) but the lab then realized it was
> posted in error and *replaced* it (without telling anybody) with the "no
> growth" result.
>
> Can we therefore add, and agree, that the ability to edit progress
> notes, and the ability to review the audited (edited) notes, needs to be
> implemented together?
Sounds like a reasonable request to me. Flagging notes as
edited is relatively easy. Providing access to versions is a
lot more involved. However, the versions exist in the
backend in any case, so if dispute arises over a flagged
note pgadminIII can always come to the rescue.
Jim, feel free to add "flag edited narrative" the the 0.4 roadmap.
However, on account of your above story: I would have
expected the trainee to document
"culture shows Staph, started i.v. antibiotics".
Later, when you reviewed, you'd write another note
"culture DOESN'T show Staph at the moment
- assess why ABs were started"
Those two notes would certainly not override each other but
rather coexist. A simple confirmative phone call to the lab
would resolve the situation. I am not sure I quite
appreciate how this relates to editing narrative. After all
one doesn't assume the trainee is involved in a deliberate
coverup of something.
Karsten
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- Re: [Gnumed-devel] encounter edit before final save, Jerzy Luszawski, 2008/08/11
- Re: [Gnumed-devel] encounter edit before final save, Karsten Hilbert, 2008/08/11
- Re: [Gnumed-devel] encounter edit before final save, James Busser, 2008/08/12
- access to review audits (was Re: [Gnumed-devel] encounter edit before final save), James Busser, 2008/08/12
- Re: access to review audits (was Re: [Gnumed-devel] encounter edit before final save), Jerzy Luszawski, 2008/08/13
- Re: access to review audits (was Re: [Gnumed-devel] encounter edit before final save), Karsten Hilbert, 2008/08/13
- Re: access to review audits (was Re: [Gnumed-devel] encounter edit before final save),
Karsten Hilbert <=
- Re: access to review audits (was Re: [Gnumed-devel] encounter edit before final save), James Busser, 2008/08/13
- Re: access to review audits (was Re: [Gnumed-devel] encounter edit before final save), Karsten Hilbert, 2008/08/13
- Re: access to review audits (was Re: [Gnumed-devel] encounter edit before final save), Karsten Hilbert, 2008/08/13
- Re: access to review audits (was Re: [Gnumed-devel] encounter edit before final save), Karsten Hilbert, 2008/08/13
- Re: access to review audits (was Re: [Gnumed-devel] encounter edit before final save), Jerzy Luszawski, 2008/08/13
- Re: access to review audits (was Re: [Gnumed-devel] encounter edit before final save), Karsten Hilbert, 2008/08/13
- Re: access to review audits (was Re: [Gnumed-devel] encounter edit before final save), Rogerio Luz, 2008/08/13
- Re: access to review audits (was Re: [Gnumed-devel] encounter edit before final save), James Busser, 2008/08/13
- Re: access to review audits (was Re: [Gnumed-devel] encounter edit before final save), Karsten Hilbert, 2008/08/15
- Re: access to review audits (was Re: [Gnumed-devel] encounter edit before final save), James Busser, 2008/08/16