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Re: [Gnustep-marketing] GNUstep Foundation
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MJ Ray |
Subject: |
Re: [Gnustep-marketing] GNUstep Foundation |
Date: |
Fri, 01 Oct 2004 21:56:11 +0100 |
On 2004-10-01 19:47:25 +0100 Nicolas Roard <address@hidden> wrote:
[...], and most people's opinion on GNUstep is fuzzy at the best. When
they don't confond the project with WindowMaker they think it's a
dead
project.
If that sadden you, well, that's too bad, but that's the truth, and
you know
it.
The fuzziness, yes. I've not really had many confound it with
WindowMaker recently: I think their market share has fallen too now.
Shouting loudly "we're not windowmaker, damnit" is just bizarre these
days. We've much bigger hills to climb.
The foundation and the marketing are not automatically tied (the
foundation
will probably not do the marketing itself after all, it will more
likely
be a group of volounteers as today). But a foundation gives us more
credibility, a central place to send/get money, etc.
That is what you want, then: a credible place to send/get money.
That's probably worthwhile. It would help if we could get similar
clear aims from others and identify what we mean by "credible". (I
know that Adam posted some suggestions: thanks Adam.)
A foundation does not need to be a corporation [...]
No, not in England either. All the US foundations I know well are
corporations, though.
in the US and I don't know how it works here, but if Greg want do
create a
Foundation, I trust him. I think he knows what kind of work he expose
himself to.
Unless I misunderstood how US corporations work, it needs more than
one person, legally. Then we have to think about credibility too. This
is probably making work for a lot of people: is it the best use of our
resources?
As to trust... I think I tend to the opinion that was on my lecturer's
wall: "In God we trust: all others must bring data."
Although I agree that the exact roles of the Foundation needs to be
more
discussed and detailed, I really don't think we should use the FSF,
because
- it's not the FSF role, they don't have manpower for that
It seems clearly within the FSF role, according to the description on
http://www.gnu.org/fsf/fsf.html
I don't know whether they have the manpower, but neither does the
Foundation yet.
- they are not as involved in the project as us (euphemism)
This is why we need some control or commitment that money donated for
GNUstep will be used for GNUstep. I think English law normally
restricts use of directed donations to non-profit groups, so you can't
spend them on other things. You can spend general donations on
anything. I'd need to check to be certain of that, but I'm pretty
sure. Does US law have similar provisions? If so, do we just need
confirmation that the chief maintainer's decision is final?
--
MJR/slef My Opinion Only and not of any group I know
Creative copyleft computing - http://www.ttllp.co.uk/
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- Re: [Gnustep-marketing] GNUstep Foundation, (continued)
- Re: [Gnustep-marketing] GNUstep Foundation, MJ Ray, 2004/10/01
- Re: [Gnustep-marketing] GNUstep Foundation, Alex Perez, 2004/10/01
- Re: [Gnustep-marketing] GNUstep Foundation, MJ Ray, 2004/10/01
- Re: [Gnustep-marketing] GNUstep Foundation, Gregory John Casamento, 2004/10/01
- Re: [Gnustep-marketing] GNUstep Foundation, MJ Ray, 2004/10/01
- Re: [Gnustep-marketing] GNUstep Foundation, Gregory John Casamento, 2004/10/01
- Re: [Gnustep-marketing] GNUstep Foundation, MJ Ray, 2004/10/01
Re: [Gnustep-marketing] GNUstep Foundation, Nicolas Roard, 2004/10/01
Re: [Gnustep-marketing] GNUstep Foundation, Alex Perez, 2004/10/01
Re: [Gnustep-marketing] GNUstep Foundation, MJ Ray, 2004/10/01
Re: [Gnustep-marketing] GNUstep Foundation, Gregory John Casamento, 2004/10/01
Re: [Gnustep-marketing] GNUstep Foundation, MJ Ray, 2004/10/01
Re: [Gnustep-marketing] GNUstep Foundation, Nicola Pero, 2004/10/01
Re: [Gnustep-marketing] GNUstep Foundation, MJ Ray, 2004/10/01