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Re: [groff] A typo on fsf groff wiki page, and question about releasing


From: Boyuan Yang
Subject: Re: [groff] A typo on fsf groff wiki page, and question about releasing
Date: Sat, 30 Dec 2017 09:36:26 +0800

在 2017年12月30日星期六 CST 上午5:55:18,Stephanie Björk 写道:
> I think part of the reason why the release for Groff has been so slow and
> sparse could be because of two things: the patches aren't ``significant''
> enough for some degree of ``significant,'' there are not enough maintainers
> and thus not enough motivation to publicly release or effect anything, this
> is a phenomenon that does happen with software at times.  Again, this is
> just my opinion.  As far as I'm concerned, Groff needs maintainers.  Now,
> in my experience, if the software is reasonably good, slow releases aren't
> really anything bad.  Software releases shouldn't be rushed into a goal;
> releases should only happen when vox populi and the maintainers feels it is
> ready.  I wouldn't consider Groff unmaintained, though.
> 
> > To be more concrete, I'm looking forward to seeing groff 1.22.4 in Ubuntu
> > 18.04 LTS, which will be the base of tons of other derivative Linux
> > distributions. Otherwise we might miss it and have to wait for another 2
> > years.
> 
> What do you mean by 2 years?  I thought Ubuntu had their releases every n
> months where n < 12.  10 months I think?

Ubuntu releases one version every 6 months. However, every 2 years, Ubuntu 
would release a "LTS" (Long Term Support) version with 5 years of support for 
security updates and bugfixes. Non-LTS versions only have 9 months of support. 
Such distinct support length pushes more users into using Ubuntu LTS.
Besides, there are lots of derivative distributions (Linux Mint, elementry OS, 
etc) making their own releases only based on Ubuntu LTS. These facts add up 
the importance of LTS Ubuntu, the next of which is 18.04 LTS. It is expected 
to get released on April 2018. [1] As a result, I would expect a new stable 
version of groff gets released a little bit sooner and get itself into the new 
Ubuntu LTS.

[1] https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BionicBeaver/ReleaseSchedule

在 2017年12月30日星期六 CST 上午8:35:22,Werner LEMBERG 写道:
> Mhmm, I believe it's neither of these reasons.  There are just
> technical issues, AFAIK: Bertrand didn't have write access to the GNU
> upload area.  Hopefully, this is fixed now, and I guess that he will
> do a release as soon time permits.

That's good news and I'm looking forward to seeing any progress on it.


Regards,
Boyuan Yang

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