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Re: Publishing an Official Statement on Self-Hosted Compilers


From: Pjotr Prins
Subject: Re: Publishing an Official Statement on Self-Hosted Compilers
Date: Fri, 6 May 2016 10:07:55 +0200
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Reproducible builds of D compilers
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On Fri, May 06, 2016 at 01:30:18AM +0300, Efraim Flashner wrote:
> On Thu, May 05, 2016 at 09:52:32AM -0500, Alex Griffin wrote:
> > Hello Guixlings,
> > 
> > One thing I think the Guix project should do is work with the
> > reproducible builds folks to publish a document explaining the issues
> > involved with self-hosted compilers. It should encourage language
> > communities to continuously maintain some way to build their language
> > starting from hand-written C source code (or another language which can
> > itself be bootstrapped from C). It could also mention that some members
> > of our community are exploring ways to bootstrap gcc.
> > 
> > What do you think? It might be a total flop, but it looks like something
> > we should try anyway! At the moment I do not see other communities
> > talking about this. Guix is deeply concerned about these issues, but
> > ultimately we cannot fix everything alone. If we can convince the
> > Rust/OCaml/Haskell folks that this is important, we may be able to
> > attract a much larger group of people to bear on the problem.
> > 
> > Thanks for your thoughts,
> > -- 
> > Alex Griffin
> > 
> 
> It's not something I had really thought of before, with the focus being
> on reproducable building of packages. It doesn't take much, though, to
> realize that you have to start from somewhere to get reproducable and
> trustable binaries. While it's easy to throw up your hands and say "its
> turtles all the way down," the more the turtles rest on C's turtles the
> better.
> 
> -- 
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