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Re: Add murmur.


From: Ludovic Courtès
Subject: Re: Add murmur.
Date: Sat, 11 Feb 2017 15:31:15 +0100
User-agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/25.1 (gnu/linux)

ng0 <address@hidden> skribis:

> On 17-02-10 22:54:21, Marius Bakke wrote:
>> ng0 <address@hidden> writes:
>> 
>> > On 17-02-09 23:50:02, Ludovic Courtès wrote:
>> >> ng0 <address@hidden> skribis:
>> >> 
>> >> > On 17-02-09 17:50:04, Ludovic Courtès wrote:
>> >> >> Hi ng0!
>> >> >> 
>> >> >> address@hidden skribis:
>> >> >> 
>> >> >> > This patch adds an proposed change to mumble, murmur as an output.
>> >> >> 
>> >> >> I’m reluctant to “non-standard” outputs like this.  The reason for
>> >> >> multiple outputs should be to reduce the closure size for standards
>> >> >> uses.  What do we gain by not included murmurd in “out” in this case?
>> >> >> 
>> >> >> Thanks,
>> >> >> Ludo’.
>> >> >
>> >> > We remove the server component (murmurd) from the client component
>> >> > (mumble).  I imagine that if you run murmurd, you will not want mumble
>> >> > in the same user profile.  And if you run mumble, you probably don't
>> >> > want murmurd.  The default is a client, adding murmur output is logical.
>> >> > But this is just my view.. I would not want a server unless I explicitly
>> >> > expressed my intention to have it
>> >> >
>> >> > What do you think?
>> >> 
>> >> I think the only reason to separate things usually is size, not
>> >> “aesthetics.”  So I’d be in favor of keeping both in the same output if
>> >> there’s no size problem.
>> >>
>> >
>> > Of course this is a theoretic issue, but the separation of server+client
>> > where applicable when the nature of an application allows it makes sense
>> > to me.
>> 
>> What does `guix size` say about mumble:murmur compared to mumble:out? If
>> the server does not depend on any graphical features, I think a separate
>> output makes sense. mumble alone is ~1GiB.
>
> As far as I know right now, it does not have any graphical features or
> dependencies.
>
> mumble:murmur -> total: 1072.6 MiB
> mumble:out    -> total: 1111.2 MiB

And what about the total reported by

  guix size mumble:murmur mumble:out

?

Ludo’.



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