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Re: [Gzz-commits] gzz ./TODO doc/gzz.css doc/pegboard/.cvsignore ...


From: Benja Fallenstein
Subject: Re: [Gzz-commits] gzz ./TODO doc/gzz.css doc/pegboard/.cvsignore ...
Date: Fri, 08 Nov 2002 19:00:34 +0100
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Tuomas Lukka wrote:

On Fri, Nov 08, 2002 at 02:39:08PM +0100, Benja Fallenstein wrote:
Sorry, but for "get this some time in the future" for now don't see any use case at all.

Let's say I have a *lot* of blocks on my hard drive and I'm on the train.
I start reading some stuff I haven't read before.

At that point, my system would make note of getting the related stuff
at some point.


Ok, let me clarify: Use case *for now*. I want to peg something that makes sense to implement as a demo *now*. What you describe is part of the "full vision"-- but I don't feel we need to write interfaces for that now (except if you're keen on making a demo of it now, but I don't think it's so important). My point is that some kind of asynchronizity is necessary to make any use of Storm on the network at all-- what you describe is interesting, but not vital for getting us running.

As for what you describe: It seems to me that this is related to what the InterPlaNet research group (at IETF) is working on: store-and-forward protocols. If you're interested in that kind of thing, it would make sense to look at their stuff.

The interface I have in mind is like the spaces': get(id, obs) returns a block if we currently have it, otherwise null; if we don't have it we request it from the network, and if we can find it there, we fire the Obs so that the views will get refreshed.

Ah, we're thinking about different time spans. The views will be refreshed
every minute or so anyway.

Yes. However, that's like building a browser and saying, "well, if we have loaded an image, we can show it when we refresh the view next time; the user will scroll every minute or so anyway, then we just put the image in." If you used such a browser, when you're waiting for an image you would scroll up and down and up and down... until the image appears. Argh! That's not something I'd like to either use or present in a demo ;-)

- Benja





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