Re: getting Mule, Unicode & X selection to play together

[Michael Livshin]

Eli Zaretskii <eliz@is.elta.co.il> writes:

> The problem is, Emacs 21 uses two different codepoints for Cyrillic 
> characters: one based on ISO-8859-5, the other based on Unicode.  
> Conversion between them is not supported in stock Emacs distributions, 
> AFAIK you need either add-on packages (such as ucs-tables you can find
> on gnu.emacs.sources) or the latest development code from CVS.

thanks!  I installed the CVS version and got everything to work.

to possible future sufferers: the _key_ thing about getting anything
MULE-related to work seems to be /letting go/.  by any means, don't
try logic!  you'll spend hours in pain, you'll pull half your hair
out, and it just won't work for you.

my satori found me the minute I happened upon the following, in
fontset.el:

(defvar x-font-name-charset-alist
  '(...
    ("koi8" ascii cyrillic-iso8859-5)
    ...))

after seeing the above, it was a matter of slapping self on whatever
passes for forehead, setting the global locale to ru_RU.KOI8-R,
setting the Emacs language environment to "Cyrillic-ISO", not
forgetting to explicitly map the "cyrillic-iso8859-5" encoding to an
iso8859-5 font in the fontset (no sir, Emacs *won't* grok it by
itself, how could it?), and voila!

(OK, so as a consequence of setting the global locale to something
 un-Unicodelly, I won't be able to cut-n-paste in more than 2
 languages at the same time.  no biggie, at least cyrillics are
 working.)

bitter unfunny sarcasm aside, Emacs 21.3.50 seems to be a *really*
nice piece of work, so far.

thanks all,
--m

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David Masterson wrote:
   Are
> you expecting all packages to distribute in a form that is compatible
> to all package managers so that they can be managed on all systems?
> 

I think this brings to light that:

If you're getting a binary dist pkg, by default you get management
for your OS, which means you lose control on the install process.
Therefore, we really only need focus on standards for gnu/fsf source
distributions.

Tribhuvan