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Re: Chinese characters support
From: |
Lee Sau Dan |
Subject: |
Re: Chinese characters support |
Date: |
15 May 2003 10:07:00 +0200 |
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Gnus/5.0808 (Gnus v5.8.8) Emacs/20.7 |
>>>>> "Robin" == Robin Hu <huxw@knight.6test.edu.cn> writes:
>>>>> "Lee" == Lee Sau Dan <danlee@informatik.uni-freiburg.de> writes:
>>>>> "Charles" == Charles Muller <acmuller@gol.com> writes:
Lee> Many people using the CJK parts of Emacs only work with the
Lee> national encodings (Big5, GB, JIS, KSC, etc.) and in those
Lee> cases, they Emacs works excellently.
Robin> I think you are over-simpilify this problem. ;-( Most
Robin> CJK characters are not encoded in either Big5 or GB or JIS
Robin> or KSC, that's why the GB coding standard change from
Robin> gb2312 to gbk then to gb18030.
It depends on what you mean by "most". Yes, if you include those 10s
of thousnds of *rare* characters, then even Unicode can fall short.
Most Chinese text, for instance, uses around 5000 distinct characters
only, of which around 1000 accounts for more than 90% of the
characters in a text. Big5 is very sufficient for normal use. If
not, the Chinese people won't have thrown it away (e.g. in favour of
Unicode). Similarly, Japanese texts employ around 3000 distinct
characters, and there is a government standard list of characters to
use. Characters outside that list should be theoretically avoided.
The characters in JIS are based on this set, AFAIK.
Robin> AFAIK, most chinese characters also cannot be coded within
Robin> mule, and exists unicode support does not solve this
Robin> problem.
As long as 99.99% of the characters that I need for Chinese text files
can be encoded in Big5 and emacs-mule, what's the problem?
Robin> Of course, emacs is enough for most people in most
Robin> time, but I am really hesitated to tell my friend once and
Robin> once again "Sorry, but your name (羽中) is not supported by
Robin> my emacs."
No, that's not my name. I think Gnus sets the charset of my postings
to big5.
And which Emacs is your emacs? Emacs since version 20 has been
displaying Chinese (I can't speak for Japanese and Korean) very
satisfactorily. And I find it, together with Gnus, to be the most
practical tool on Linux to read/write Chinese files/news/mails.
--
Lee Sau Dan 李守敦(Big5) ~{@nJX6X~}(HZ)
E-mail: danlee@informatik.uni-freiburg.de
Home page: http://www.informatik.uni-freiburg.de/~danlee
- Re: Chinese characters support, (continued)
- Re: Chinese characters support, Charles Muller, 2003/05/10
- Re: Chinese characters support, Eli Zaretskii, 2003/05/10
- Re: Chinese characters support, Charles Muller, 2003/05/10
- Re: Chinese characters support, Eli Zaretskii, 2003/05/10
- Re: Chinese characters support, Charles Muller, 2003/05/11
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- Re: Chinese characters support, Jason Rumney, 2003/05/12
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- Re: Chinese characters support, Kai Großjohann, 2003/05/12
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- Re: Chinese characters support, Lee Sau Dan, 2003/05/13
- Re: Chinese characters support, acmuller, 2003/05/13
- Re: Chinese characters support, Robin Hu, 2003/05/13
- Re: Chinese characters support,
Lee Sau Dan <=
- Re: Chinese characters support, Kai Großjohann, 2003/05/10
- Re: Chinese characters support, Charles Muller, 2003/05/10
- Re: Chinese characters support, Eli Zaretskii, 2003/05/10
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- Re: Chinese characters support, Kai Großjohann, 2003/05/12
- Re: Chinese characters support, Charles Muller, 2003/05/12
- Re: Chinese characters support, Eli Zaretskii, 2003/05/13
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- Re: Chinese characters support, Kai Großjohann, 2003/05/13
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- Re: Chinese characters support, Lee Sau Dan, 2003/05/14
- Re: Chinese characters support, Kai Großjohann, 2003/05/14
- Re: Chinese characters support, Jason Rumney, 2003/05/14