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Re: EmacsW32 invocation options
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Hadron |
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Re: EmacsW32 invocation options |
Date: |
Thu, 03 May 2007 00:38:48 +0200 |
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"Juanma Barranquero" <lekktu@gmail.com> writes:
> On 5/2/07, Hadron <hadronquark@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> A brief browse of forums and the emacs irc channel suggests that most/a
>> good % of people do indeed find it daunting to get emacs working under
>> windows.
>
> Do you mean, more people find it daunting to get Emacs working on
> Windows than on GNU/Linux?
I remember years ago I certainly did. But having abandoned Windows now I
can only report from my perception/experience.
>
>> I am surprised you would disagree. What is simple to you is not
>> necessarily simple for complete newbies - most of whom I would guess run
>> Windows.
>
> The kind of things that make Emacs difficult are not going to
> disappear by making emacsclient start Emacs. A complete newbie must be
> ready to delve into a (very good, but extensive) documentation, and
> perhaps even do some elisp programming, to take full advantage of
> Emacs.
There are many things in emacs which can and should be simplified. The
server thing is one such. I see no reason whatsoever that emacsclient
cant do exactly the same as "server-start" - certainly on a single
machine. or maybe default to using the system clipboard for cut &
paste. Things like that turn new users away. Saying "its because thats
the way it is" is inflexible and non productive.
ps if anyone with any shout reads this - is there any change
update-alternatives could change emacsclient when it changes emacs? I
constantly fall foul of that.
>
>> By far the most important thing to
>> instill in any emacs apprentice is to learn how to use the built in
>> help.
>
> Exactly. I did three attempts over the years before I finally warmed
> to Emacs. The definitive push was taking the time to follow the
> tutorial and read at least some of the docs.
I can't disagree with that. Its very easy to cry for help but its there
under your nose all the time. I have made the mistake more than once in
emacs and probably will do again.
>
> Juanma
>
>
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- Re: EmacsW32 invocation options, (continued)
- Re: EmacsW32 invocation options, Eli Zaretskii, 2007/05/05
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- Re: EmacsW32 invocation options, David Kastrup, 2007/05/04
- Re: EmacsW32 invocation options, Brian Elmegaard, 2007/05/05
- Re: EmacsW32 invocation options, David Kastrup, 2007/05/05
- Re: EmacsW32 invocation options, Lennart Borgman (gmail), 2007/05/05
- Re: EmacsW32 invocation options, Brian Elmegaard, 2007/05/06
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- Re: EmacsW32 invocation options, Hadron, 2007/05/02
- Re: EmacsW32 invocation options, Juanma Barranquero, 2007/05/02
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- Re: EmacsW32 invocation options, Hadron, 2007/05/04
- Re: EmacsW32 invocation options, Juanma Barranquero, 2007/05/04