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From: | Jean-Christophe Helary |
Subject: | Re: Why emacs have not native language menu |
Date: | Wed, 25 Jul 2007 14:16:59 +0900 |
On 25 juil. 07, at 01:02, Pascal Bourguignon wrote:
Jean-Christophe Helary <fusion@mx6.tiki.ne.jp> writes:On 24 juil. 07, at 23:26, Thien-Thi Nguyen wrote:() Jean-Christophe Helary <fusion@mx6.tiki.ne.jp> () Tue, 24 Jul 2007 23:00:28 +0900 No because the people who pretend that there are technical issues or that "it is impossible" do not make sense in the first place. perhaps you misunderstand them (more than they misunderstand you).Pascal Bourguignon's replies are a good example of misunderstanding me: I am not talking about localizing the function names, which would definitely create a mess, but about localizing the interface, as Hadron very clearly put it. Or maybe Hadron is totally misunderstood too ?But you don't understand me! function names are a great part of the interface of emacs. I never use the menu (first thing in my ~/.emacs is (mapc (lambda (f) (funcall f -1)) '(menu-bar-mode scroll-bar-mode tool-bar-mode)) ). Command names (that is function names) are a big part of the my interactive interface with emacs, thru M-x.
I understand that you enjoy talking about your specific settings and how proficient you are at English and how everybody should be just as proficient as you so nobody would bother anybody with such silly requests as "localizing" (what a barbarous word!) such a wonderful application/language/whatever that is emacs in your eyes, but if you take some time off the mirror in which you find yourself so good at English, you'll notice that the real world is profoundly localized and that the cultural singularity that made computers and free software in the English speaking sphere is slowly fading away _thanks_ to the power of free software and its potential for computer literacy (and _not_ for English literacy).
Since we are talking about languages, you should be aware that computer languages (lisp included) propose different ways to appreciate the computer culture and it would be very counterproductive to expect all computer users to "speak" only a minimum sub-set of one dialect of one language.
It is just the same for natural languages. And since obviously English is not your native language you should be much more aware of that than native English users who obviously have no "need" for learning other languages since the world comes to them in English...
Have fun in your function-name English ! Jean-Christophe Helary
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