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From: | ken |
Subject: | Re: change in fill-paragraph |
Date: | Tue, 22 Apr 2008 02:57:20 -0400 |
User-agent: | Thunderbird 2.0.0.0 (X11/20070326) |
On 04/20/2008 01:32 PM B. T. Raven wrote:
ken wrote:On 04/19/2008 09:24 PM B. T. Raven wrote:ken wrote:With the versions of emacs I've been using for years, fill-paragraph won't fill/reformat include in its definition of a paragraph any line which begins with a space. However, the newer emacs version I use at work will. That is,(1) In the older versions, this will be one paragraph. M-q will reformat it fine. I like it this way. (2) In the older versions, having just a single space at the beginning of a line tells paragraph-fill that this is a separate paragraph. So this would be a separate paragraph. (3) In the new emacs version, all of these would constitute one paragraph and so be filled together. I would much prefer the older way fill-paragraph works... so that (1), (2), and (3) stay where they are. How would I restore the old behavior to the new version of emacs? Thanks much.You can get this with "(paragraph-indent-text-mode) Major mode for editing text, with leading spaces starting a paragraph. In this mode, you do not need blank lines between paragraphs when the first line of the following paragraph starts with whitespace. `paragraph-indent-minor-mode' provides a similar facility ..."Thanks for this, but I didn't want to change the entire mode, as the behavior above by fill-paragraph happens also when I'm using html-helper-mode, what I use for editing/creating html. It may well happen in other modes also, e.g., perl-mode, c-mode... not sure, because I haven't tried a lot of other modes at work yet.In brief, I just want to change the behavior of fill-paragraph back to what it was previously for all modes. If paragraph-indent-minor-mode will do this, what would I need to put in ~/.emacs to invoke it for any file I might open and not have "paragraph-indent-minor-mode" show up in the mode line? (My mode line already is already occupied with all it can accomodate.)I just typed M-x paragraph-indent-minor-mode in a text-mode buffer and it didn't change anything on the mode line. Then I did unfill paragraph on some indented and unindented random strings with no blank lines and they were treated as indented paragraphs. Then M-x text-mode turns off this minor mode.Again, thanks for your help.I don't have any experience with these modes; they are new to me too and I just looked them up in the docs. I am happy with a blank line as paragraph separator and I don't see any need for the old conventions for paragraph-start and paragraph-separate. Maybe tweaking these two variables would give you what you want. Why do you want it anyway, may I ask? If it's for publication, you would want to run the file through a page layout program (TeX, Auctex) which will lose the blank lines, indent new paragraphs, and a whole lot more.
Thanks. Those two variables may provide the answer. I checked the values in the older version and they are different. Perhaps just copying those into the new version will fix things. Hopefully I won't have to play too much with the regexps. There isn't a lot of time for that on the job.
Having all text filled into blocklike paragraphs might be okay in some situations, but when editing or writing something in html or C or perl etc., it's nice to preserve the structure indicated by indentations and nested indentations. I really don't understand why the author of the latest emacs would want to dispense with that.
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