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Re: Lost functionality in buffer item in menu bar from 22 to 23...


From: Drew Ames
Subject: Re: Lost functionality in buffer item in menu bar from 22 to 23...
Date: Tue, 04 May 2010 15:43:10 -0000
User-agent: G2/1.0

On Mar 22, 11:54 am, Stefan Monnier <monn...@iro.umontreal.ca> wrote:
> > I renamed the menu-bar.el.gz, menu-bar.elc, tmm.el.gz, and tmm.elc
> > files from emacs 23.1 and then copied the same files from emacs 22.3
> > to the 23.1 lisp directory.
>
> When something gets worse between versions, the first thing to do is
> check etc/NEWS to see if the change was conscious and if so how to
> revert it in your .emacs.  In this case, I think the etc/NEWS won't
> say anything, which means you should report it via M-x report-emacs-bug.
>
> > The end result was no change in the behavior of the buffer menu bar
> > item in tmm-menubar. Pressing F10 then "b" gave me just the same four
> > options, with no list of open buffers. There's something going on
> > beyond the tmm and menu-bar files.
>
> Indeed, I see the problem: the GUI's menu bar gives me all the buffers,
> but F10 b only shows me the 4 other choices.  Please M-x report-emacs-bug.
>
> > This is a little frustrating because the Emacs 22 buffer item in tmm-
> > menubar makes buffer switching [I]very[/I] easy: Hit F10, b, and the
> > first letter of the buffer I want. Then the menubar buffer goes away
> > and the buffer I selected is up.
>
> We (Emacs maintainers) usually don't pay too much attention to the
> actual structure of the menus: we assume the menus are only used for
> "advertisement" purposes, so we care about the fact that the structure
> makes sense and makes commands easy to find, but not so much about
> whether a command is quick to access.  I.e. as soon as you use a feature
> often enough to care about where the command is located in the menu, you
> should try and use a key-binding instead.
>
> E.g. for buffer switching there are many different options available
> which might suit you even better, starting with just C-x b, or refined
> via iswitchb, etc...
>
>         Stefan

Stefan,

Thanks for the response. I submitted this bug with the above
information. It is now bug number 5726.

Regards,

Drew Ames


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