Re: is emacs in any linux base?

[Chiron]

On Thu, 22 Mar 2012 17:20:20 -0700, Xah Lee wrote:

> when i tried Ubuntu Linux last year, i found that emacs isn't part of
> the normal install. But in fact, is in a package category that's
> unsupported (called “universe”).

You are mistaken.  I am using Ubuntu Linux, have emacs installed, and it 
is supported by the Ubuntu maintainers.  It's version 23.3, and the 
maintainers are:

Ubuntu Core Developers <ubuntu-devel-discuss@lists.ubuntu.com>

It is not under "Universe" it is under the distro's base.

So I don't know where you are getting this "motherfucking insult to the 
face" from, but it appears that it is self-inflicted.  You've got your 
facts wrong, and are bitching about a non-issue.

Now, it is true that emacs wasn't installed by default.  I had to install 
emacs myself.  That took about ten minutes, including downloading.  Maybe 
that doesn't meet with your exacting standards, but it's acceptable to me.

Ubuntu did install various other editors - the more lightweight ones, vi, 
vim, nano, pico, and some others.  Oh, and of course, sed.  It also 
installed Libreoffice, which is reasonable.  Far more users are going to 
need a word processor than an editor like emacs.  Most users aren't 
programmers.  Those who *are* programmers are going to be able to figure 
out how to install emacs (or else, they probably shouldn't be 
programming).

You've spent considerable text trying to explain why emacs isn't included 
in the base distro, and why it's unmaintained.  Fortunately, you're 
simply wrong about it.  emacs *is* in the base Ubuntu distro, and it is 
maintained by the Ubuntu folks.

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