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Re: emacs 24: cursor shape is now i


From: Xah Lee
Subject: Re: emacs 24: cursor shape is now i
Date: Mon, 7 May 2012 20:54:14 -0700 (PDT)
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On May 7, 6:54 pm, Xah Lee <xah...@gmail.com> wrote:
> On May 7, 11:32 am, "Drew Adams" <drew.ad...@oracle.com> wrote:
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> > > GNU Emacs 24.1.50.1 (i386-mingw-nt6.1.7601) of 2012-04-23 on MARVIN
> > > started with -Q.
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> > I tried with this, which is pretty close, if not identical:
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> > In GNU Emacs 24.1.50.1 (i386-mingw-nt5.1.2600)
> >  of 2012-04-23 on MARVIN
> > Bzr revision: 108006
> > agustin.mar...@hispalinux.es-20120423103325-xmra3329elgzhmpc
> > Windowing system distributor `Microsoft Corp.', version 5.1.2600
> > Configured using:
> >  `configure --with-gcc (4.6) --no-opt --enable-checking --cflags
> >  -ID:/devel/emacs/libs/libXpm-3.5.8/include
> >  -ID:/devel/emacs/libs/libXpm-3.5.8/src
> >  -ID:/devel/emacs/libs/libpng-dev_1.4.3-1/include
> >  -ID:/devel/emacs/libs/zlib-dev_1.2.5-2/include
> >  -ID:/devel/emacs/libs/giflib-4.1.4-1/include
> >  -ID:/devel/emacs/libs/jpeg-6b-4/include
> >  -ID:/devel/emacs/libs/tiff-3.8.2-1/include
> >  -ID:/devel/emacs/libs/gnutls-3.0.9/include
> >  -ID:/devel/emacs/libs/libiconv-1.13.1-1-dev/include
> >  -ID:/devel/emacs/libs/libxml2-2.7.8/include/libxml2'
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> > > it display cursor as i-beam.
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> > Are you sure you don't mean the mouse pointer?  The cursor (aka text 
> > cursor) is
> > what indicates point, which is where text gets inserted.
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> > I see the mouse pointer as an I-beam or an arrow, depending on what the 
> > mouse is
> > over.  But I see the cursor as a box (by default).
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> > > Then, if i paste this
> > > (setq cursor-type 'box)
> > > evaluate it, it has no effect in the display. (but the variable did
> > > get set, verified with describe-variable)
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> > See above.  My crystal ball is trying to tell me that you are looking at the
> > mouse pointer but setting the text cursor type.
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> > You change the mouse pointer shape using variable (not an option)
> > `x-pointer-shape'.  But I don't think it is possible to change the pointer 
> > shape
> > on MS Windows.  See (elisp) `Pointer Shape'.
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> this is very strange. No, it's not mouse pointer.
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> in summery, the problem went away. The cursor is now the normal solid
> box, even if i load ALL my inits. The problem was happening to GNU
> Emacs with -Q. Very odd indeed.
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> here's the interesting part. When trying to reproduce this or research
> this in more detail, i actually renamed my .emacs (even i have no
> reason to, because i was starting FSF's build of GNU emacs, with -Q,
> and was reproducible 100%). But anyway, on a whim i renamed my .emacs.
> Then, the problem never showed up, no matter what i do or from what
> emacs version, nor showing up when i launch my heavily customized
> emacs full.
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> i think that guy's blog in my previous post has something to do with
> it. Certainly a odd problem. Maybe something to do with some lowlevel
> rendering/display system on Windows.
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> Thanks for all the help. I'll report more if it happens again and i
> can reproduce it.
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>  Xah

found the answer.

when Microsoft Speech Recognition is on, even in a not listening
state, the cursor will be i-beam, even if you start emacs with -Q.
Setting cursor-type has no effect, just like the other guy blogged
about. (his's problem is when screen magnify is on)

 Xah


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