Re: zsh outside of Emacs (was: Why do we need a number of different terminal modes in Emacs?)

[Karl Voit]

* Robert Thorpe <rt@robertthorpeconsulting.com> wrote:
> Karl Voit <devnull@Karl-Voit.at> 
>> * Robert Thorpe <rt@robertthorpeconsulting.com> wrote:
>>> Karl Voit <devnull@Karl-Voit.at> writes:
>>>
>> I don't see much difference between Alt-TAB + XOrg-copy&paste and
>> C-x b + Emacs-copy&paste
>
> It depends on how much use you make of Emacs specific features.  Since
> bash 

I am using zsh. However, my zsh has default Emacs bindings as well.

> has the same cursor movement commands as Emacs those aren't so
> important.  In terminal line-mode or shell mode you can use M-/
> (dabbrev-expand).  So, if you're writing a shell script or I have a file
> open that contains shell commands you don't need to copy & paste so
> much, you can write a few character of the command and complete it with
> M-/.  If you don't use these facilities though then it's best to xterm
> because it does better terminal emulation.

I see.

OK, this confirms my point of view. Thank you.

>> The package is called emacs-snapshot. Debian GNU/Linux Wheezy was
>> providing no Emacs 24 to me. Therefore I installed the snapshot
>> package.
>
> Snapshots are generally not very reliable.

Back then it was either this snapshot package or compile myself (no
way!) or stay on Emacs 23 (no way). My package is still current I
guess. Have to look for a different source of Debian packages.

>> Which Debian Wheezy packages from which source do you recommend?
>
> I don't know about Debian.  Others have posted about that.
>
> I understand that Debian & Ubuntu are similar though.  On Ubuntu there
> are things called "PPAs", "personal package archives".  People can host
> them and put up things they've built.  Someone has put up a backport of
> Emacs 23.4 which uses the libraries I already have (which avoids the
> problem of regular backports which is the huge number of libraries they
> drag along).  Perhaps something similar is available under Debian.

Ubuntus PPAs imitate the behavior of Debian (the original). I am not
sure about the compatibility of an Ubuntu-PPA and Debian stable but
the underlying methods are the same.

-- 
All in all, one of the most disturbing things today is the definitive
fact that the NSA, GCHQ, and many more government organizations are
massively terrorizing the freedom of us and the next generations.
                                                  http://Karl-Voit.at