Re: [Help-gnucap] Which Schematic Program

[Jorge Ernesto Guevara Cuenca]

Hi,

On 5/3/06, al davis <address@hidden> wrote:
> On Wednesday 03 May 2006 14:24, Markus Feldmann wrote:
> > does anybody know a schematic Editor?
> > gschem seems to be very old and unstable.
> >
> > I am working on Debian.
>
> There are two that I know of:  "gschem" and "oregano".
>
> "gschem" makes nicer schematics and has a more complete symbol
> library.  The user interface takes some getting used to, but it
> is not bad after you do.  To simulate, you need an external
> translator "gnetlist", which doesn't work very well.  You make
> the schematic, save it, then run gnetlist with the option "-g
> spice_sdb" which gives you a first cut.  If any nets have text
> names, they will be preserved, so you need a recent development
> snapshot of gnucap that supports text node names.  Sometimes,
> the netlists require minor editing.

I am using in Debian gschem, gnetlist and gnucap combination and that
work fine. I recommend use the -s parameter with gnetlist, this is
special for the netlist output for gnucap.

> "oregano" is much more newbie friendly, but is more limited in
> its capability.  It extracts the netlist automatically, and
> runs gnucap through its menus.
>
> In both, there are some symbols that do not correctly translate
> to a netlist.  In oregano, most that have a counterpart
> translate reasonably, or can be configured to translate
> reasonably.  The configuration is based on a template that is
> user definable.  The "gnetlist" translator is written in an
> all-verb style that requires explicit translation of every
> detail, so only a small subset of the symbols are translated.
> Those that are not supported require programming in guile to
> support.
>
> Overall, I think gschem is better suited to the experienced
> user, who is willing to do a little hacking, and oregano is
> better suited to someone with less experience, such as a
> student.
>
> Neither are as slick as Multi-sim, which hides too much.  I
> think oregano is more newbie-friendly than PSpice.
>
> Both are in Debian.  The version of gnucap in debian is not the
> latest.  Actually, it is the latest "stable version", but there
> have been significant changes, so I recommend the development
> snapshot, which you need to compile and install the hard way.
>
> Debian stable usually has very old versions.  If you want
> something reasonably up to date, use either the testing or
> unstable versions of Debian.
>
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Sorry for my bad english.
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